Rats and Wiring

[stephencd1959]

Good afternoon,

This year I purchased a TYM 454 HST Tractor new. My old Montana gave up the ghost.

A few days ago, when I went to get my tractor out of the barn, there were warning lights on the cluster that were not listed in the manual. They looked like the engine warning light except that they had an 兎xclamation mark in them. The left was blinking, the right was not. I tried both the paper and digital version of the manual. I was finally able to determine what the issue was. A rat, foul critter that they are, had chewed through the wiring of the connector on a glow plug. The wire was chewed through right at the connection making it impossible to re-wire it as there is no wire remaining with which to work with.

The dealer is telling me they don't sell the individual connectors so I need to buy an entire wiring harness to replace the one plug connector. There is of course the additional charge to do all the re-wiring. As since I also have no way to get it back to the dealer I'll have to pay them to haul it back and forth. As I have a back problem I simply cannot do the wiring myself. The option of spending a $1000.00 or more to fix this problem is not a viable solution. Not after having to replace my older brush hog (almost $2000.00) which spun out three different PTO shafts at $148.00 a pop in less than a month until I replaced it. (hog was only rated up to 40hp) My mistake for not noticing the horse power rating difference sooner. Plus a new hydraulic line when the backhoe outriggers slipped on the ground (no traction) hitting the arm against a large rock snapping off the connector on the line. Another almost $200.00 to replace the line. Then (almost $800.00) replacing the straight blade (60 inch) for a 72 inch which actually covers the width of the tire track. Just to take care and manage our property. I'm surprised my wife hasn't divorced me yet.

I contacted the company (N. Carolina) via email last night with the issue as well as the photos. Amazingly I received an email from them this morning. They are looking for a place where I might be able to purchase the connector, as well looking into the issue of shoes for the backhoe. But, I thought someone on here might have an idea as well.

Sorry for the long winded run. Just getting frustrated here in S/C Missouri.

 

[nyone]

The only issue is a single 2 wire connector? If that dammaged connector dosnt directly connect into the back of say a gauge cluster or component i would start by removing both connectors and just but splice it for the time being.

As far as your other issues they just seam to be general issue with equipment. If you cant afford a $200 hydraulic hose then you shouldnt be owning a backhoe. For attachments being to small...well

 

[nyone]

O and tomcat rat/mice poisen. Put it in every corner of the building and not the pellets. The pellets they just take and hide in every knook and cranny.

 

[newbury]

For rats and mice try keeping your hood open. There's another thread on here for that being a solution.

I'd hit all forums that had that type engine/glo-plug combo. Reads like your dealer needs some money for Christmas. Splice it in the meantime if you can.

Looks like some careful work with a pocket knife or dremel could expose enough copper to splice it.

 

[mred2]

If i could, cut back the insulation a little to splice. If wires will be too short, add short piece to end. The pins in the connector can be pushed out with the right tool and new pins put on or spliced onto wire. Some connectors are very are to find. We have to buy connector kits.
$200 for a hose sounds very high. If it was a metal line, I can see that. On older machines, I have replaced broken metal lines with cheaper hoses.

 

[DieselBound]

I've been pretty lucky that rodents have kept away from my electics (dog, puppy, on the other hand, isn't complying!).

Rare that a connector cannot be separated from a connector. Usually there are barbs that can be released. If the existing wiring, when the damaged part is cut out, can reach then just put on a new lug (or maybe you can reuse the originals) and slip it back into the connector.

On my older VW TDIs it's fairly common for people to build their own harnesses (they're very simple). The trick part is in threading the GP end to get a small nut on it to hold on an "eye" terminal at the end of the new wire. For this system, however, it's just a single wire to the GP. Your tractor appears to have two wires, and I couldn't say for sure what the second one is doing, in which case you're probably going to have to continue to utilize that connector end.

 

[stephencd1959]

As hindsight is always 20/20 there are things I should have taken into account if I had thought about/known about possible issues. Obviously I didn't. My bad. I can only say that as a first time property owner (other than a house in a city) there are a lot of things I'm finding out, some in a very hard and shocking way. To include maintenance and repair of large (to me anyways) equipment. Just a bit of a shocker is all.

 

[oosik]

I started the thread about open hoods and no rats or mice. However - the open design of my Kubota M6040 - lifting the hood does not really make that much difference. Its a lot more significant for my Jeep and Ford pickup.

Not that it makes a hill of beans difference - but the two times I've had damage under the hood - new wiring harness for my brand new 1990 Chrysler( $875) and new windshield washer hose in the pickup - - both were done by mice, not rats.

Its been two months now since there has been any "rat sign" or any rats caught in the big rat traps. I continue to catch about one mouse per day in those big 'ol traps.

The very definite answer - for me, at least - barn cats. Neighbor is supposedly getting me three or four.

 

[stephencd1959]

Hey nyone. Yup, have been putting it in there, it's always disappearing. I'm assuming something is eating it but no carcass. Going to double what I've been using. Maybe that will be enough.

 

[stephencd1959]

Hi newbury, I was going to try that if I can't find a replacement connector for it. I fixed plenty of wiring on cars and trucks when I was younger. But I didn't have to lay on top of the engine to fix them. Not to mention parts were a little cheaper in the late 70's.

 

[mred2]

I just had problems with an old F150 truck. It will turn over but not fire up. No sound from fuel pump. It has been sitting for about 2 months. I think rats, mice or something got to it. I have several cats outside. They have to be hungry to hunt.

 

[DieselBound]

I've also only noted issues with mice, not rats. I had rats running around some of my critter's pens, and found one dead under the house (but only ever one- I suspect I've gotten the holes closed up such that only the darned two-dimensional mice can get in!).

I keep the hood popped open and the seat tipped forward on my B7800 and that's kept the mice away: I used to regularly get them up on top of the fuel tank (cowling area in front of the dash). Found a new nest on top of my Ram 2500's engine. The truck was parked in the same spot for a while. I've found that moving vehicles around from time to time helps. I pray that nothing starts attacking my NX: every other piece of equipment (except cars, which are garaged) is equipped with simple diesel engines having next to no electronics (never cold enough here that I couldn't get by w/o glow plugs [or, in the case of my 12v Cummins, an air heater], though it's a bit tough on an engine to fire up this way).

Managing to survive the onslaughts of nature are all part of country living. And rodents aren't just country-pumpkins: wife's son's family just bought a house up in the greater Vancouver, BC suburbia and is battling mice: this made me and my wife somewhat chuckle.

If one has a rat issue then the best bet is to get a Rat Terrier! There's a dog for every job, and you cannot beat a good dog!

 

[the old grind]

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I've just been there with a car that sat for 11 mos with a full tank of gas and me putting of removing it. On a dare, we cut a hole in the trunk to access the fuel pump and found 3 of 4 wires chewed off right at the connector like the worst shown in the attachment above. Chevy uses yummy wire?

These newer waterproof connectors don't all disassemble easily to replace internal bits like those of yore. On the bench I soldered a few more inches onto the wee stubs remaining on the connector and covered 'em up with heat-shrink tubing.

So, a week later I was tilting my pickup box to get to a tank pressure sensor that scanned as low volts. ... and mice had chewed off all 3 wires from the sensor but not the 4 on the pump/fuel sender connector like the'd done under the car.

I covered up more for neatness with heat shrink tubing on the truck job. Here's how the car looks showing my gawky 'rainbow' extension/repair made of trailer wire. Note that I had to work right up to/at the connector.

 

[nyone]

For rodent poisen use the block or house with the blocks in them. Also setting a few plain old Victor traps with a hair trigger will help. You have to check traps almost every day this time of year. The rodents come in hot and heavy this time of year.

 

[WranglerX]

I've just been there with a car that sat for 11 mos with a full tank of gas and me putting of removing it. On a dare, we cut a hole in the trunk to access the fuel pump and found 3 of 4 wires chewed off right at the connector like the worst shown in the attachment above. Chevy uses yummy wire?

These newer waterproof connectors don't all disassemble easily to replace internal bits like those of yore. On the bench I soldered a few more inches onto the wee stubs remaining on the connector and covered 'em up with heat-shrink tubing.

So, a week later I was tilting my pickup box to get to a tank pressure sensor that scanned as low volts. ... and mice had chewed off all 3 wires from the sensor but not the 4 on the pump/fuel sender connector like the'd done under the car.

I covered up more for neatness with heat shrink tubing on the truck job. Here's how the car looks showing my gawky 'rainbow' extension/repair made of trailer wire. Note that I had to work right up to/at the connector.
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Many auto parts (ROCKAUTO) have new connectors and they come with 6-8 inch pig tales... for easy repair, just use butt connectors...

Been there done that, little rodent friend ate cam position sensor (actually under intake) on my Chevy truck and did same fix with the 1/4 of wire exposed at end of connector .... In future I think I will look for new plugs online before any attempt to repair...

Dale

 

[treefarmerguy]

Rodents got to my wife's Toyota Highlander to the tune of $10,000. Seats, headliner carpets, air bags, and assorted wiring. Insurance paid for all except for about $300.

On further checking I found out that manufacturers have switched from petroleum based rubber for wires, hoses, and other car parts to soy based. What rodent doesn't like a soybean diet! Now the garage smells like mothballs with one of those inaudible to humans devices and several traps. Hope this wor

 

[oosik]

Mice ate up the wiring on my brand new 1990 Chrysler about two weeks after we had it. The dealer said - lots and lots of problems like this for country folk - the wiring was soy based. The mice chewed thru the windshield washer hose on the pickup - simple replacement there.

 

[strantor]

I highly doubt that is a proprietary connector designed by TYM for exclusive use on your tractor, and only available from your local dealer as part of a wiring harness assembly. The engineers designing tractors would benefit from focusing their efforts on things other than minutiae like plug design and the bean counters would likely scoff at the notion of a dedicated assembly line for this one special plug.

No, they would more likely, and most often do, purchase standardized connectors from someone who specializes in production of standardized connectors, and use those connectors in their design, maybe or maybe not assigning them an in-house part number.

Check for any part numbers stamped on the connector, especially anything that says "DIN". Consult online visual connector cross-reference tables. Google all kinds connectors, I'll bet you find that your glow plug connector is the same connector that (fictitious example) Toyota used for the headlights on a '97 Tacoma and you can get the connector from eBay with wire pigtails for $6.50 delivered to your door, and it might even have the little butt splices included.

 

[strantor]

these look like strong possibilities but you would need to look up the specs and take some measurements of your plug and verify.

Bosch, Kompakt 1.1a Series, Female Connector, 192844114

13593246, Delphi, ATS 2.8 Series, Female

Amazon.fr : BOSCH 1 928 43 874 cosse allumage

 

[strantor]

I posted links to the connectors earlier and then as I lay in bed I realized that wasn't really very helpful. You already have an intact connector. What you need is a "pigtail" with longer wires coming out, that you can splice into your harness. That proved to be a little harder to find because when a OEM uses a connector in an assembly like a harness or pigtail, they assign that assembly with their own part number and the connector part number is lost. you have to figure out who is using that connector, for what purpose, in what assembly, and a part number for that assembly. I did find one excellent source.



It would seem that GM used the same connector for the fuel injectors on their 6.6L Duramax diesel engines for 2004/2005 year models, which had problems with the connectors melting so they switched to a different style, but that means that "injector wiring harness repair kits" for this engine are plentiful. Below is some Google fodder followed by several links to actual products which I strongly suspect will work for you. Again, I encourage you to verify the connector dimensions before purchasing, but I'm pretty confident this is it.

Duramax LLY LBZ LLM Fuel Injector Connector Harness 6.6L Chevrolet GMC


Amazon.com: Injector Wiring Harness Repair Pigtail Connector 6.6l LLY 24.5-25 Duramax: Automotive


Amazon.com: ACDelco PT2183 GM Original Equipment Black Multi-Purpose Pigtail: Automotive


Amazon.com: Fuel Injector Connector Harness Plug Wire Pigtail For 6.6L Duramax LLY LBZ PT2183 (8-Pack): Automotive