Rear Blade Rear blade with manual tilt?

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matt16631

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I'm new to the tractor market; I just purchased a kubota 3830. The primary use is for building and maintaining a motocross track. Is there a blade implement that can be manually tilted to create sloped burms while the tractor tires are on level ground? Example = 8 o clock/ 2 o clock tilt or a 10 o clock/ 4 o clock tilt.
 
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matt16631 said:
I'm new to the tractor market; I just purchased a kubota 3830. The primary use is for building and maintaining a motocross track. Is there a blade implement that can be manually tilted to create sloped burms while the tractor tires are on level ground? Example = 8 o clock/ 2 o clock tilt or a 10 o clock/ 4 o clock tilt.


If what I think you're asking is correct...you want a blade that can rotate around the longitudinal axis (direction of the tractor's travel) to create an angled berm behind the tractor, as it travels.

I'm assuming these berms would be the sides of a motocross track.

Well you can buy blafes that will angle..but probably not as much angle ask you're looking for. Try the higher end implement manufacturers such as Land Pride and Bush Hog (as a start)

However, since these blades rotate about the axis of the tractor, one side would be digging in while the other side would be in the air...does that make sense? To do what you want, you'd want a blade that is significantly offset from the 3PH.
So, I don't think a back blade will do what you're looking for...not just a blade, anyway.
 
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Welcome to TBN! :D I have seen several threads on guy using tractors to build/maintain X tracks. Do a search on motocross and I am sure that you will find lots of info on how and what.
check out http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachments/98857-box-blade-help.html#post1125191

There are lots of possibilities. Check out Rob's boxblade work. http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachments/99242-boxblade-road-gutter-maintenance.html

But also there is a standard rear blade both manually adjustable and hydraulically. I do not see how a manual one would work for you though with out a WHOLE bunch of climbing on and off the tractor.:p

Maybe that will give you some idea.:)

Mike in Warsaw
 
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MJPetersen said:
But also there is a standard rear blade both manually adjustable and hydraulically. I do not see how a manual one would work for you though with out a WHOLE bunch of climbing on and off the tractor
Concur. Plus, hydraulic remotes aren't even mentioned on the 3830 spec sheet I read. Even if it did, most hydraulic rear blades I've seen are in the 8' to 12' size range. And if it's got turf tires, there's another strike against meaningful ground engagement

So let's start over. What kind of transmission and tires do you have on that Kubota? And which rear wheel spacing are you set up for?

//greg//
 
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HST trans and R4 industrials; unlknown wheel spacing; its just what ever is the stock setup.
 
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I did a search on "motocross" and little useful came back. The links you provided were slightly helpful but I dont think there is an implement out there that I need. "Roy Jackson" understood it best; yes I want a blade that, when angled, has one side digging and the other side in the air. Obviously after several passes, the blade could be adjusted back to level due to the tractor now riding on a newly created slope/bank.
 
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You've got me a little concerned about driving the tractor on the sloped berm. Tractors do tip over sideways. Last October, my dad rolled his one of his tractors on uneven,bumpy slope. How steep are you going to make those berms? Will your tractor have a loader on it?
 
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Have you thought about a loader with a front blade atachment (instead of a bucket).
You have probably never seen a bulldozer build a farm terrace before, but the dozer works at 90 degrees to the terrace/berm. They usually push dirt from the downhill side up the hill to create the terrace/berm. This also keeps the machine and operator reasonable safe and stable because you don't ride sideways on the berm.​
Something you probably haven't expereinced or thought about is when you use a rear blade, you are constantly looking back over your shoulder and one hand is on the 3 pt hitch control lever to change the height adjustment. After 2-3 hours of this, your neck will feel it either now or the next day. You will also learn that benefits of backblading or backdragging to smooth out surfaces. You can "backblade" with rear blade, frontend loader, frontend blade, bulldozer blade. You put the blade in "float" position hydraulically, and travel opposite the normal direction that you would to push/pull the dirt.
 
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I've got a 7' blade that offsets and rotates and tilts. I put in a road this year on sloped ground where I had to cut into the bank about 4 foot deep to get a 6' wide level road. The backblade did none of this work, that's all front end loader work. The backblade is handy for finish work not establishing the grade.
I just kept coming at the cut from 90 degrees until I had established a level grade then it's just a matter of continuing that cut while driving on it.
You can do it, but I think the front end loader is your tool.
Y&B
 
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I understood you alright, it is just the thought of climbing on and off the tractor umteen times to adjust the back blade in a 50 foot stretch of track as you seems to me to be a pain. :rolleyes: Even KK has a blade that is adjustable in the way that you want.
King Kutter Incorporated

There are others that are even more adjustable, with side swing, horizontal rotation, angle rotation, slide from side to side, and blade angle.

Mike
 
 

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