Rear Remotes

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Rockin' G Ranch

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Location
Point Blank, TX
Tractor
Kubota L4740 HST with FEL
My dealer wants $1,700 to install 2 sets of rear remotes. Is that a fair price or should I learn how and do it myself? How much would just the parts cost? Thanks.
 
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we were told that adding an additional section to our rr stack would cost 1200 for our M6800 still deciding if it's worth keeping it all original
 
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It's about $1200 for one extra remote on a mahindra 4035, the kit was $910...I just got the SOP (instructions) for a DIY install, think I will probably just take the tractor and parts back and having the dealer do it...

Rich
 
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You said two sets of remotes.

How many spools are you talking about.

There are people on here that say let the dealer do it.

I say if you have the mechanical skills, then you can save a lot of money by doing it your self.

It is not a big deal to insert a bank of 4 spools into an open center hyd circuit.

The valve should have PB to pass the fluid downstream.

You will need to obtain hoses and fittings and a good place for the valve.

There is lots of reading on TBN on valve installation on different tractors.

You can custom make your valves to suit your exact purpose using a stacked valve setup.

Things like detent, float, motor spools. etc.

You need at least two spools for T-N-T.
 
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If they're quoting you $1700, that's probably about $1200 for parts and $500 labour, if there is a "kit" available from Kubota. If not, then it'll be about 50/50. Check the parts cost and see. I built mine from scratch for the L3400, a single set cost me about $700-800 in parts.

Sean
 
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My dealer wants $1,700 to install 2 sets of rear remotes. Is that a fair price or should I learn how and do it myself? How much would just the parts cost? Thanks.

That's a pretty steep markup. When I bought my new 2008 Mahindra 5525, the dealer installed triple remotes for $700. Flat top fenders are an advantage when doing an installation like this.

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There are plenty of threads on TBN that show you how others have installed hydraulic remotes. Check these if you want to DIY.

You can get most of what you need at Surplus Center (see the ad on TBN). Cost for a double remote hardware should be $400-500.

Good luck.
 
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J_J said:
You said two sets of remotes.

How many spools are you talking about.

There are people on here that say let the dealer do it.

I say if you have the mechanical skills, then you can save a lot of money by doing it your self.

It is not a big deal to insert a bank of 4 spools into an open center hyd circuit.

The valve should have PB to pass the fluid downstream.

You will need to obtain hoses and fittings and a good place for the valve.

There is lots of reading on TBN on valve installation on different tractors.

You can custom make your valves to suit your exact purpose using a stacked valve setup.

Things like detent, float, motor spools. etc.

You need at least two spools for T-N-T.

JJ,
I have read a lot of your posts and you are extremely knowledgeable about hydraulics. I wish you were my next door neighbor! I just need someone to point and say "...buy these parts and install it like this...". I actually enjoy doing it myself but what you tried to explain above is Greek to me.
I am interested in T-N-T so "Yes" I do need 2 spools.
Thanks for the help!
 
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JJ,
I have read a lot of your posts and you are extremely knowledgeable about hydraulics. I wish you were my next door neighbor! I just need someone to point and say "...buy these parts and install it like this...". I actually enjoy doing it myself but what you tried to explain above is Greek to me.
I am interested in T-N-T so "Yes" I do need 2 spools.
Thanks for the help!

Can you buy the kit from Kubota and install it yourself? I'm one of the guys who J_J talks about who always recommends using OEM parts if available. You should be able to do the job yourself if you can get a kit of parts. Even if you pay the full $1700 and get the dealer to install remotes, you'll have an OEM system designed to ergonomically fit your machine. It will also be completely supported by Kubota for spare parts and you'll find any Kubota dealer will work on it if needed. When it comes time to trade in or sell your machine, the OEM remotes will definitely be a plus. With a homemade and one-of-a-kind system, you "pays your money and takes your chances." So, my recommendation if you are hands-on is to get the kit if possible. Go with the dealer installation if you can't. Selecting valves, hoses, fittings, and designing the plumbing that you have to do on a DIY set is exactly what you pay extra for with the factory remotes. You have to decide if it's worth it. :)
 
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Rockin' G,
If you have the time, do it yourself. I have a few tools, enjoy learning new skills, and wasn't in any hurry. When I bought my tractor back in March, I couldn't hardly spell hydraulic, much less understand it. Now I have a 4 spool remote valve stack, 3 with float and one full detent. 2 of the 3 with float are connected to the top and tilt, and the third controls the scarifiers on my box blade. The 4th is full detent and is for future use... log splitter maybe? My valve stack and hoses came from Surplus Center and the fittings are from Discount Hydraulic Hose. I haven't added it up, but it was in the $800-$900 range, the valve being about 500, the rest being fittings and hoses.

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You won't find a more knowledgeable (myself excluded) and helpful bunch than you have here. I wouldn't take a gold monkey for the learning experience, but if you are in a hurry, you may want to farm it out.
 
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Check the price for the kits from another dealer, go with the OEM they are nice. If you got the tractor from the dealer you are talking about, he should give you a deal on the kits,
 
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Rockin'G Ranch, if you go with the Kubota OEM remotes be sure to let the dealer know what type of control valve you want. Detent, detent float, detent with auto kick out, spring return to center. Kubota offers several types, might as well get what you want-need. ;)
 
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I think the factory parts will give you a much cleaner install. Maybe the cab GLs are different but on the open station tractors it looks like the spool valves mount near (or onto) the loader valve and the levers have push rods to actuate them. It doesn't look like there's enough room on the right side of the tractor where the slots are to mount the spools with the standard style levers. I could be wrong though. If you do decide to add a set please start a new thread and take lots of pictures.
 
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MtnViewRanch said:
Rockin'G Ranch, if you go with the Kubota OEM remotes be sure to let the dealer know what type of control valve you want. Detent, detent float, detent with auto kick out, spring return to center. Kubota offers several types, might as well get what you want-need. ;)

I do not know what type controls I need for various functions but I do know what functions I want.

1. T-N-T on the rear
2. Possible grapple for the FEL
3. Possible wood splitter on the rear.


Thanks for the help!
 
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I do not know what type controls I need for various functions but I do know what functions I want.

1. T-N-T on the rear--detent with float and spring return to center or auto kick out or 2 detent with float
2. Possible grapple for the FEL---------spring return to center
3. Possible wood splitter on the rear.--detent


Thanks for the help!

You can also just use a bungee cord to keep the valve open on a spring return to center valve whenever you were to use a log splitter. You for sure want to have the float position valve to use with the "TnT" side link. It makes certian grading conditions much easier- better. ;)
 
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Rockin' G Ranch ,

The reason that I recommend the do it your self principle is there is a great mark up on parts and labor.

You save money, you learn something, and can be proud of the fine job you did.

This is all assuming that you have the ability to round up all the parts and understand the operation of each and have the tools and time to do the job. If someone does the job for you, you will have learned nothing except to pull the levers.

If you do it your self, you will have taught yourself something and will know how to operate and trouble shoot the system if needed.

Some people just have unlimited money pockets, and can afford to have someone else do it for them.

Just add up the merits of each method and decide for your self.

You can custom make a stack valve set to do the exact job you want.

Sometimes it is easy, and at other times extremely hard.

Basically it is a

What do I want the valve to do?

How many spools do I need?

Where shall I put it?

What are the fittings size and thread type I will need.

How long should I make the hoses?

You will need a hyd gage to set relief pressure.

You should measure twice and order once.

Try this site for hoses and fittings

DiscountHydraulicHose.com

Stacked valves

Surplus Center
 

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