Streetcar
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Do not expect long life from sealer. You are trying to glue gravel together. Any turning of vehicles will rip the surface apart
Recycled asphalt..When can I seal it. Sooner the better.
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Redlands Okie
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I agree with a couple of the others. Trying to glue the top surface of loose gravel together may not work out well. IF your going to try to seal it then Eagon suggestions of commercial company using their sealer sprayed on is probably something to check prices out on
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All good points when it comes to recycled material I suppose. I don't have experience sealing that, but it works very well on original asphalt driveways in my experience. But I live in a moderate climate with no real hard freezes and it has been on relatively flat surfaces as well so now spinning of tires.
AxleHub
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Personal opinion. . . Don't expect recycled blacktop to be blacktop.
Recycled blacktop is either:
A. A courser ground product that is mixed into new blacktop at the manufacturing point. It is used to recover 28% to 35% of the petroleum base that existed in the recycled product to be blended in a new blacktop application. Whether a street or highway project, a contractor is only allowed to use 25 to 35 percent recycled in any blacktop project in our state and others. That is a reason why streets and highways are a harder blacktop surface than some driveways because driveways could contain as much as 45 percent recycled. Weight bearing numbers for blacktop is a combination of thickness, pressure, and bitumin/aggragate pecentages.
B. A fine ground product that is less course than any gravel sizes is referred to as millings or tailigs. It's fine texture packs together nicely to cover some sort of base material that is older and firm like old gravel driveways, car lots, shoulders, or similar situations to the 3. Typically is used in thinner layers than is a blacktop layer because it has such small remaining aggragate sizing that it is not designed to withstand heavy weight compression on its own without a base underneath. It knits together from heat of sunlight. . . But it's not designed to be blacktop. . As it doesn't have he binder quantity that is blacktop. I have never personally seen sealer used on millings or tailings for any purpose other than coloring. And I have never seen a "binder" added to milling or tailings. Recall what oil or gas does to blacktop. . it softens it not hardens it. So the idea of adding any kind of oil to railings as a binder is not logical nor is it good for the ground. Tailings/millings is a great product when used correctly and is a low impact alternative for blacktop, or a high impact additive when used over a seasoned gravel, compacted clay, or broken concrete base surface.
Recycled blacktop is either:
A. A courser ground product that is mixed into new blacktop at the manufacturing point. It is used to recover 28% to 35% of the petroleum base that existed in the recycled product to be blended in a new blacktop application. Whether a street or highway project, a contractor is only allowed to use 25 to 35 percent recycled in any blacktop project in our state and others. That is a reason why streets and highways are a harder blacktop surface than some driveways because driveways could contain as much as 45 percent recycled. Weight bearing numbers for blacktop is a combination of thickness, pressure, and bitumin/aggragate pecentages.
B. A fine ground product that is less course than any gravel sizes is referred to as millings or tailigs. It's fine texture packs together nicely to cover some sort of base material that is older and firm like old gravel driveways, car lots, shoulders, or similar situations to the 3. Typically is used in thinner layers than is a blacktop layer because it has such small remaining aggragate sizing that it is not designed to withstand heavy weight compression on its own without a base underneath. It knits together from heat of sunlight. . . But it's not designed to be blacktop. . As it doesn't have he binder quantity that is blacktop. I have never personally seen sealer used on millings or tailings for any purpose other than coloring. And I have never seen a "binder" added to milling or tailings. Recall what oil or gas does to blacktop. . it softens it not hardens it. So the idea of adding any kind of oil to railings as a binder is not logical nor is it good for the ground. Tailings/millings is a great product when used correctly and is a low impact alternative for blacktop, or a high impact additive when used over a seasoned gravel, compacted clay, or broken concrete base surface.
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I will give it some time as we have rain in the forecast 12 out of the next 15 days. Possibly the dust on top with get washed off a bit. I will then seal it probably using the sealer more as a paint than anything else but also hoping to get some benefits from it. The driveway is pretty hard just has the dust on top right now. Maybe after all the rain I can wash it down but not yet.
Egon
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Think about the chip coat's put on new existing asphalt roads. A tack coat is sprayed on the existing road, then clean chipped gravel is spread over it and it's packed in with a roller.
fatboycowen
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You could get a small amount, and do a test in a small area, to see if it works. I'm very curious.
Egon
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Think about the chip coat's put on new existing asphalt roads. A tack coat is sprayed on the existing road, then clean chipped gravel is spread over it and it's packed in with a roller.
[video]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chipseal[/video]
It is all about the type and quality of the bitumen products and how they are applied. What's available in bulk to commercial business may be quite different to what an individual can access in 5 gal. Buckets. Many of the products require heat to be fluid.
[video]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chipseal[/video]
It is all about the type and quality of the bitumen products and how they are applied. What's available in bulk to commercial business may be quite different to what an individual can access in 5 gal. Buckets. Many of the products require heat to be fluid.
Streetcar
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The existing asphalt serves as base for the sealer to attach and protect for a chip coat. For millings there is no base to attach. The coating would be cosmetic only
