Reducing Decibel Level

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funwithahoe

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Anyone have any luck making their 'Bota quieter? I know it might result in a little horsepower loss but I would take it if I didn't have to wear earplugs. Doesn't make sense that 300+ HP deisel trucks make a fraction of the noise.

Thanks.:confused:
 
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I dont know if its for you ,but a set of noise reducing headphones like my [BATTERY OPERATED]BOSE,will make my tractor almost imposible to hear.Then add alittle music on my i pod turned down low of course ,and i really enjoy the experience better,especially blowing snow.
Some folk need to hear there tractor,but to each there own.
ALAN
 
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That is a difficult question to answer because in involves the fundamental design of the tractor.
Without motor mounts the engine is bolted to the tractor frame and the frame acts as a sounding board.
Much of the sound comes directly from the engine itself, things are clanking around in the engine.
There are things that may be done to the exhaust to change the pitch, tone.

The first step is to find the source of the noise.
 
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The reason your noise level is as high as it is is simply one of muffler size in relation to the exhaust manifold square area.

The large trucks have huge muffler systems that are either exhausted through the upright mufflers or the exhaust is disharged with piped system under a dump trailers body to keep the dump body hot to aid in discharge of material like collected and dumped snow from parking lots, sand, or asphault.

The small mufflers are small only because of the placement issue under the Kubota model you have and the position of the rear exhaust pipe under the open station of the s.c.u.t. frame.

It is entirely possible to employ a larger muffler under the open station of the tractor BUT the problem with ground clearance is the major issue if the muffler is larger in diameter.

Saying that; if the original muffler was removed and taken to a muffler repair shop with an additonal new muffler they could be paired with a Y fitting and soldered or clamped together with muffler clamps and then reattached with a third clamp and muffler rubber mounts for the tail pipe.

Further a replacement muffler with an exhaust gas purifier to clean the exhaust and only discharge CO2 and water vapor is possible and easily done as well and can be obtained via mail order from an existing supplier that I can PM you with for their contact information if you would like to chat with them.

You will need to provide the model number and cubic inch displacement of the three cylinder engine to order a second muffler to pair or replace the existing one with a larger muffler pack.

The major issue is that these O.E.M., mufflers are of single pass design reducing the exhaust noise only once prior to exiting the muffler.


These same motors in other applications are much quieter as different mufflers are used;
The folks I have mentioned w/o naming them can provide the lower decibel mufflers offered as standard equipment on generators, light towers, pumps, and construction machinery using these Kubota Engines.

The BIG issue is both ground clearance as well as available implement clearances if you have one of those-UGH!!!; belly mowers, as the muffler passes right under the open station and over the belly mower as well as the loader frame mount and snow blower mounts etc., and must be clear of the hoisting cylinder and the levers and arms used to create the amount of lift needed for the implements used with this and other brands of S.C.U.T.'s, and C.U.T."s.



I do not have a nickle invested with them, nor am I connected with them financially in any way, so I can freely offer thier name to whom ever wishes to contact them about better mufflers with or without exhaust gas purifiers.
 
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I have a bit experience with aircraft sound reduction.

One source is what I'd call drumming whereby large pannels vibrate and drum.
That one is easy; add a backing, glued felt works as will as will even painting strips or an X with something like tar. A flexible caulking smeared works also.

Adding similar deadening materials to the firewall will block much noise as well.

Lineing the underside of the engine hood will also absorb much noise, but note that anything foreward of the firewall creats a potential fire hazard so you'd want to consider fire retardant materials there.

Even wrapping the intake filter box will reduce another source of noise.

Would need more info, ie cab installed? hp etc

I would not consider attacking exhaust noise as here you risk either comprimising performance or creating fire hazards.
However an asbestos wrap on the exhaust pipe (not muffler) could reduce a tinney type of sound if one exists. Heavier guage pipe will give same results.
 
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You are going to have a hard time making a tractor any quiter than they already are.

As mentioned, the engine is rigidly mounted to everything. Everything metal is going to amplify sound. And if your boa is anything like mine, the exhaust creates very little noise. So a bigger muffler isn't going to help much. Rather it is the actual noise of the engine itself. Which is just the nature of the diesel beast.

Big trucks, and also newer 3/4tons and 1 tons are way different. They can do several things that tractors just can't to reduce noise. First, the engine is totally enclosed unlike on a tractor that has open sides. Then they have sound deadning insulation like on the underside of the hood that absorbs the sound. The motors are also mounted in rubber bushing unlike a tractor. This isolates the motor and prevents the sound from travelling to the frame and through out the rest of the truck. Couple that with being in an cab that is carpet lined and all, it makes for a quiet ride. None of these can be employed on a tractor though.
 
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Anyone have any luck making their 'Bota quieter? I know it might result in a little horsepower loss but I would take it if I didn't have to wear earplugs. Doesn't make sense that 300+ HP deisel trucks make a fraction of the noise.
:confused:

And I agree think there isn't any excuse for it either. When offroad motorcycles have gotten quiet there's no reason for a tractor to be loud. Or to direct noise and fumes toward the front wheel where they bounce back on the operator. Whatever happened to high exhausts??

Luckily there is a partial cure: Home Depot is selling the John Deere active noise-cancelling headphones for $89.95 - plus tax and shipping because the only sell them online for some reason. These are some seriously good headphones. Best I've ever used and that includes some 'copter types for close to 10x the price. Well built and clever construction. Even comes with a battery AND a spare battery.
enjoy, rScotty
 
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Many newer tractors have their mufflers inside the engine compartment. My NH TC40 does.

My previous Kubota B8200('85 vintage) had the muffler outside the engine compartment. It was vertical, with a pipe going about 2' past the end of the muffler. Because I hit it on branches, and for noise, I was able to unbolt it from the manifold, and turn the whole thing 90 degrees. It faces out towards the front now. The tube coming off the muffler was shortened and had a flare to direct exhaust downward.

In the picture, the muffler is just visible behind the loader arm.

This helped on both accounts.

Maybe you could have a muffler shop reroute the exhaust pipe to help.

Others who posted are right though; these tractors have lots of sources of sound/noise. Muffler is only a part of it. Good set of earmuffs...
 

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Thanks all for your replies - Overall concensus seems to be there is really no easy way to reduce the noise which wasn't the answer I was hoping for but I suppose if it was easy Kubota would have done it already - The reason I asked is I was at a Christmas tree farm this morning and their "M" series seemed to be quiter than my "B" series but they did have the orchard kit on it which probably dampened the vibrations.

BTW I realized I was old when I almost walked out infront of a car because I was checking out their tractor - I had no interest in the ladies around me.:laughing:
 

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