Refurbishing a fuel tank?

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I've heard of steel fuel tanks being refurbished by washing the inside with a fluid which strips it clean and then using another compond/fluid which coats and seals it.

Does anyone know anything about this process?

TIA for any info.
 
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I've heard of steel fuel tanks being refurbished by washing the inside with a fluid which strips it clean and then using another compond/fluid which coats and seals it.

Does anyone know anything about this process?

TIA for any info.

The name of the stuff is "Kreem"....3 part chemical process.....I did it on an old motorcycle fuel tank 8-10 yrs ago....still looks new inside...

Bought it at local Harley MC dealer (all the Auto Parts stores and other Motorcycle dealers did not know anything about it)....these Harley buffs know how to save their old bikes...

#1.....wash and clean with solvent (laquer thinner)

#2......handfulls of clean gravel or nuts & bolts with laquer thinner (loosens rust from inside tank)

#3......any leaks found , dab on RTV silicone to spots (my first attempt I soldered with 50/50 solder, but silicone sealant will work better)

#4.......Phosphoric acid/water mixture (directions will have ratio) let chemical reaction take place....it will permanently freeze and seal remaining rust....during this procedure the solution will become warm(normal)...if leaks come out during, pour out and save mixture, dap more silicone, pour mixture back in

#5......rinse out with water.....

#6......dry out thoroughly (use air hose with just a little air for 1-2 hrs)

#7.......MEK Cleaner to degrease and clean (Nasty stuff keep it off your hands and don't breath it)

#8......pour out MEK, while wet with MEK pour white Kreem and work it around...

#9......let partiallly dry upside down....then repeat for 3 or 4 coatings swirling around then upside down


#10 ....Final dry use air hose again slowly hissing in tank for good dry....


This works awesome, the silicone can be rubbed off after, and Oh Yea I forgot to mention to grease up a bolt or plug at the Fuel outlet, do it just before the Kreem goes in
 
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The name of the stuff is "Kreem"....3 part chemical process.....I did it on an old motorcycle fuel tank 8-10 yrs ago....still looks new inside...

Bought it at local Harley MC dealer (all the Auto Parts stores and other Motorcycle dealers did not know anything about it)....these Harley buffs know how to save their old bikes...

#1.....wash and clean with solvent (laquer thinner)

#2......handfulls of clean gravel or nuts & bolts with laquer thinner (loosens rust from inside tank)

#3......any leaks found , dab on RTV silicone to spots (my first attempt I soldered with 50/50 solder, but silicone sealant will work better)

#4.......Phosphoric acid/water mixture (directions will have ratio) let chemical reaction take place....it will permanently freeze and seal remaining rust....during this procedure the solution will become warm(normal)...if leaks come out during, pour out and save mixture, dap more silicone, pour mixture back in

#5......rinse out with water.....

#6......dry out thoroughly (use air hose with just a little air for 1-2 hrs)

#7.......MEK Cleaner to degrease and clean (Nasty stuff keep it off your hands and don't breath it)

#8......pour out MEK, while wet with MEK pour white Kreem and work it around...

#9......let partiallly dry upside down....then repeat for 3 or 4 coatings swirling around then upside down


#10 ....Final dry use air hose again slowly hissing in tank for good dry....


This works awesome, the silicone can be rubbed off after, and Oh Yea I forgot to mention to grease up a bolt or plug at the Fuel outlet, do it just before the Kreem goes in

Thanks. That's the info I needed. This is for a generator fuel tank which has a fuel filter which slides into the fuel outlet tube. Any suggestions on how to protect the inside of the tube so that the filter will still fit after I am finished? It's a pretty tight fit now.
 
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There are also some other products available besides Kreeme.

Tractor industry normally uses another brand that the name escapes me at the moment, comes in a Red / white can, usually the places that have old tractors have it.

Aviation industry also has a couple as well.

As with any "paint" and I am using the term loosely, prep is the key part.
 
   / Refurbishing a fuel tank? #5  
is it threaded? use a greased bolt or plug,

or cover it with silicone where you don't want the Kreeme to stick:thumbsup:
 
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is it threaded? use a greased bolt or plug,

or cover it with silicone where you don't want the Kreeme to stick:thumbsup:

Not threaded. It pushes into the fuel outlet tube from the fuel line side. It's about 3" long including 1" which is filter. I'll have to get a picture tomorrow. It would be tough to silicone as you cannot reach that area inside the tank. I'll have to think about that some. There might be a way, I'll just have to figure out how.
 
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There are also some other products available besides Kreeme.

Tractor industry normally uses another brand that the name escapes me at the moment, comes in a Red / white can, usually the places that have old tractors have it.

Aviation industry also has a couple as well.

As with any "paint" and I am using the term loosely, prep is the key part.

Thanks Alan. I'll see what's available in my area.
 
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Not threaded. It pushes into the fuel outlet tube from the fuel line side. It's about 3" long including 1" which is filter. I'll have to get a picture tomorrow. It would be tough to silicone as you cannot reach that area inside the tank. I'll have to think about that some. There might be a way, I'll just have to figure out how.


If it can be popped out, fit a piece of round wooden dowel in the hole till your done.
 
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I've seen small (1 gallon) tanks done with ABS glue, after cleaning and drying. Gasoline won't touch it once its dry.
Plug the holes, dump in a bottle, swish it around until every bit of the inside is covered then dump out the excess.
 
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If it can be popped out, fit a piece of round wooden dowel in the hole till your done.

That might work. I can mic the filter tube and try to find a dowel the same size. I pulled the filter a couple of times last night and put it back in and was amazed at how tight the fit was. The plastic between the filter area section of the tube was flexing to the point I was worried about it breaking before it actually slid into the metal fuel tube.

This is an older, low hours, honda EX5500 generator which has sat outside under a tarp for the last 10 years. It was my fathers before he passed away. Functionally, it only has two things currently wrong with it.
1) The voltage regulator for the generator has failed and I will replace that.
2) The tank has rust. Light surface rust inside and heavy rust at the fill and fuel guage openings. The parts store wants nearly $250 for a new tank which I feel is a rip-off. At this point, I am considering trying to repair the tank rather than replacing it.

Money is somewhere between tight and non-existant right now, so this plays a large roll in how I tackle this issue.

Here is some history on the generator:
My folks bought it new and put around 50 hours on it. After my father passed, we had a power outage while we were visiting and I started the generator for my mother. My father had built a steel sleeve through the wall of the well house for the exhaust from the generator. When I refueled it, I did not get the exhaust lined up correctly and it started a fire on the wall. After about 30 minutes the generator quit running again. When I checked on it, I found flames going up the wall and all the way across the ceiling. I got the fire out by the time the fire department arived and they put out the coals which were trying to restart. We used the generator one more time after the fire, but the voltage kept spiking instead of remaining stable. It was put under a tarp for storage until we could get it fixed, but never got to it. This year I finally got around to the repairs and took it to a shop for an estimate. They quoted $1400 just to get the engine running again so I took it back home and looked at it myself. I replaced the oil, oil filter, spark plugs and battery. Pulled and flushed out the fuel tank and put a gallon of clean fuel in it. The engine purrs like a kitten but the generator has no voltage output. Sure glad I have the habit of turning off and running out all the fuel when shutting things down. I've troubleshot the voltage problem down to the voltage regulator. Simple repair except for the $300 cost of the part.

We actually got really lucky with the fire, as the heat from it actually scorched the paint off one corner of the fuel tank and melted the fuel guage. I bought a new fuel guage already. Total cost of repairs, so far, $159.13 (voltage regulator not purchased yet). Eventually I expect to replace the tank, but it may be a year or two (translates to ten if I know myself and it doesn't have clogging issues).

I'll get some pix when I go to the ranch later today.
 

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