Reminder - Cost of Ownership of Gas vs Diesel

[Capricious]

DP, I got on the internet and looked up fuel price in your area of Indiana. I got 2.69 for regular gas, 3.42 for diesel. That's not $1.07, that's more like $0.73. In my area it more like $0.64 today.

Here is the link I used to come up with those prices. Indiana Gas Prices - Find Cheap Gas Prices in Indiana, IN

I "topped off" with gasoline this morning in Missouri @ $2.619

Same place was selling #2 diesel @ $3.429

 

[wawajake]

here in Sault, Ontario Canada and many other places in Canada gas and diesel are same price.

Today here Gas is $1.26 per litre and diesel is $1.24 per litre. So cost of ownership decision is even more interesting here in Canada and many other places in world. If the dealers didn't go overboard with the options on the trucks on their lots , I would of went with the Ram 1500 diesel instead of my gas GMC.

 

[Soundguy]

i think it helps if you get into your diesel after it has depreciated a few years. myt 99 f350 daily driver was a whopping 8500$ nowhere to go but up from there as far as savings goes.

If I had to buy a new one at 65000$ it would be a completely different story.

 

[buickanddeere]

They all take maintenance.

Gassers around here are getting high-mileage enough that I'm seeing cam-phasers being changed out down at my buddy's shop. For a mechanic, Simple Enough. Cheap Fix ? No, as the part alone is spendy.

If you have one, or are looking at buying one used, research about Fuel Dilution in Oil, with DI gas motors. It can be an issue, esp. with the way some people stretch out, or just neglect, oil changes. Good quality diesel oil has been designed for a long time to accomodate a certain % of fuel dilution - this is a relatively new issue for modern gas motor oils. Go back far enough (carburator era), and fuel dilution was a big issue - part of the reason FI gas engines lasted longer was getting fuel dilution in the oil under control. And, that was before gasoline became ethanol contaminated.

TDI is the only long life car diesel on the road here (meaning - the newer offerings like Cruze haven't been around long). Once EGR came into play on TDIs, having to decarbon the intake after lots of miles became routine. Possibly, that issue has been mitigated a bit in the latest gen. TDI.

1) Do the research.

2) Buy what you want.

3) Enjoy it.

The Ride Ain't Free, regardless of what you buy.

Rgds, D.

The oil oil dilution problems with DI engines and where the entire old wives tale started. Was the crappy LAF 2.4L with the sub par timing chain, a leaking crankcase mounted high pressure fuel pump and soft piston rings that zebra striped the bores. No more oil dilution with the revised fuel pump.

 

[buickanddeere]

I guess people just didn't read the article or want to understand facts. One of the points was you pay more upfront but get some of it back on trade in or resale.

Where is the payback with diesel 80 cents more expensive than gasoline? Ever price a set of common rail diesel injectors? Or any of the emissions equipment? They take two batteries instead of one battery every few years. It's been a while since early 2007 when it was the last time diesel had a cost advantage over gassers in light highway applications.

 

[buickanddeere]

here in Sault, Ontario Canada and many other places in Canada gas and diesel are same price.

Today here Gas is $1.26 per litre and diesel is $1.24 per litre. So cost of ownership decision is even more interesting here in Canada and many other places in world. If the dealers didn't go overboard with the options on the trucks on their lots , I would of went with the Ram 1500 diesel instead of my gas GMC.

Canada is a mere speck in the diesel market. Diesel rules where the fuel costs 3/4 the price of gasoline and where emission equipment is limited to Tier II. That ain't the USA and Canadian diesels are strangled as bad as US diesels.

 

[Diamondpilot]

here in Sault, Ontario Canada and many other places in Canada gas and diesel are same price.

Today here Gas is $1.26 per litre and diesel is $1.24 per litre. So cost of ownership decision is even more interesting here in Canada and many other places in world. If the dealers didn't go overboard with the options on the trucks on their lots , I would of went with the Ram 1500 diesel instead of my gas GMC.

Why not order? I have ordered at least 20 vehicles to my specs.

Chris

 

[dodge man]

Did anybody read the original article? People keep bringing up the same arguments, they took that into account when they did the study. They said all the diesels had lower fuel costs. Not some of them, all of them.

I'm not defending diesel over gas or the other way around. You can keep telling me they take two batteries. Yes trucks do but cars don't. Yes the fuel costs more but if they use less, you come out ahead.

The batteries in my Dodge truck lasted a little over 10 years. They lasted twice as long as batteries in a gas vehicle. There for diesels are just as cheap to run as gas vehicles right? I don't need coil packs, I don't need spark plugs, I don't need spark plug wires, I don't need to ever replace a throttle body. People can go around in circles with these arguments.

Read the study and take it for what its worth.

 

[Diamondpilot]

Did anybody read the original article? People keep bringing up the same arguments, they took that into account when they did the study. They said all the diesels had lower fuel costs. Not some of them, all of them.

I'm not defending diesel over gas or the other way around. You can keep telling me they take two batteries. Yes trucks do but cars don't. Yes the fuel costs more but if they use less, you come out ahead.

The batteries in my Dodge truck lasted a little over 10 years. They lasted twice as long as batteries in a gas vehicle. There for diesels are just as cheap to run as gas vehicles right? I don't need coil packs, I don't need spark plugs, I don't need spark plug wires, I don't need to ever replace a throttle body. People can go around in circles with these arguments.

Read the study and take it for what its worth.

The data is wrong in my area. If you have a gas truck that gets 12 mpg and a diesel that gets 18 mpg the gas truck is still cheaper to operate.

Chris

 

[Diamondpilot]

Did anybody read the original article? People keep bringing up the same arguments, they took that into account when they did the study. They said all the diesels had lower fuel costs. Not some of them, all of them.

I'm not defending diesel over gas or the other way around. You can keep telling me they take two batteries. Yes trucks do but cars don't. Yes the fuel costs more but if they use less, you come out ahead.

The batteries in my Dodge truck lasted a little over 10 years. They lasted twice as long as batteries in a gas vehicle. There for diesels are just as cheap to run as gas vehicles right? I don't need coil packs, I don't need spark plugs, I don't need spark plug wires, I don't need to ever replace a throttle body. People can go around in
circles with these arguments.

Read the study and take it for what its worth.

The data is wrong in my area. If you have a gas truck that gets 12 mpg and a diesel that gets 18 mpg the gas truck is still cheaper to operate.

Chris