Remington Trigger Recall

Dan Hunter · Jul 17, 2014

8N Ren said:
Eddie you should do what Dan did

In this case I agree but then I would stop with the trigger.

charlz · Jul 17, 2014

I sent my son's rifle in some time ago, took a few weeks to get the box they sent. I shipped it back, got a 'recieved' message about a week after UPS tracking showed it delivered and haven't heard a peep since. I would imagine they are swamped and it may take months to get it back. They also just send you a basic 'one size fits all' box, his rifle has a synthetic stock, if it was wood I am not sure I would have sent it back as it might get the wood damaged in shipment. As it was I put addtional packing material in there since it is the youth rifle and it could slide all over in the box/styrofoam.

Dan Hunter · Jul 17, 2014

I hope this works out for you.

I hope others that might read this thread will choose some action. When I read the personal stories of deaths resulting from simply taking the gun off safety I was incensed into action. Hey, what if you knew there was a real possibility your Norelco razor would electricute you? Would you pick it up or ever buy another of their products? This is horribly bad faith on the part of Remington. They deserve the class action lawsuit they're avoiding with this response.

bindian · Jul 18, 2014

First rifle I ever bought , back in 1978, was a Rem. 700 BDL............left hand model.............in 7mm mag. Loved that rifle, yet lost it after my divorce in pawn.
The Rem. I now have is an R25........a DPMS rifle............and I hated the trigger. So I replaced it with a Timney trigger. Remington seems to have lost a lot of workmanship in their products.
hugs, Brandi

Gary Fowler · Jul 18, 2014

There was a documentary on a while back about Remington trigger assembly that were made from 60s-90s or so. Design flaw that was discovered early by the designer and he designed a fix but Remington refused to use the new design because it was too expensive. It would cost $.05 more to fix the bad triggers. Over the years several lawsuits have been filed and settled but Remington refuses to accept that there is a problem. According to the documentary, when discovered, there were only a few thousand rifles made and it would have been about $30K to fix all of them, now it would be over $300 million and that is more than the company is worth so they continue to deny any culpability and just pay when a death occurs. One time one of their rifles discharged in open court when the safety was released. It seems that with the bad design, you have to put it on fire in order to eject a chambered round and sometimes it will fire when the safety is released. Remington went so far as to quit calling it a "safety" since it really wasn't a true safety.

It was a very interesting documentary and amazingly, no one can force a recall of firearms. Cars and just about anything else but the claim is that if the government interferes with firearms, they are jacking with constitutional right to bear arms. What a bunch of BS.

EddieWalker · Jul 18, 2014

I've never heard of a Jewel trigger. I replaced the factory trigger on my 700 BDL years ago with a Timney trigger that I really like. Very smooth and crisp. Looking at Midway Jewell Rifle Trigger Remington 700 40X Safety 1-1/2oz to 3 lb SS I see it sells for $233 and the Timney is $130. One of the things that we really liked about the Remington when out shopping and comparing them to the other rifles was how smooth the bolt was, and how nice the trigger felt. The factory trigger was very easy to adjust to just the right amount of pressure for Karen.

Neither of us ever use the safety. We only put a bullet in the barrel when we are about to shoot something. I would rather miss out on shooting an animal, then take a chance with a loader rifle. This is something that I'm very **** about and what I insist on with those I'm teaching to shoot. Does this trigger issue involve the use of the safety?

From their website, there is only one gunsmith in Texas that can fix her rifle, and he is about a four hour drive away. We might wait until we get back from our safari to South Africa and take a road trip.

I will admit that this has me more then just disappointed in Remington. Not sure if I'll ever buy another one.

Eddie

8N Ren · Jul 18, 2014

OUCH!! I didn't realize there was such a difference in the price of the two, I know Timney's are good too.

charlz · Jul 18, 2014

Gary Fowler said:
There was a documentary on a while back about Remington trigger assembly that were made from 60s-90s or so. Design flaw that was discovered early by the designer and he designed a fix but Remington refused to use the new design because it was too expensive. It would cost $.05 more to fix the bad triggers. Over the years several lawsuits have been filed and settled but Remington refuses to accept that there is a problem. According to the documentary, when discovered, there were only a few thousand rifles made and it would have been about $30K to fix all of them, now it would be over $300 million and that is more than the company is worth so they continue to deny any culpability and just pay when a death occurs. One time one of their rifles discharged in open court when the safety was released. It seems that with the bad design, you have to put it on fire in order to eject a chambered round and sometimes it will fire when the safety is released. Remington went so far as to quit calling it a "safety" since it really wasn't a true safety.

It was a very interesting documentary and amazingly, no one can force a recall of firearms. Cars and just about anything else but the claim is that if the government interferes with firearms, they are jacking with constitutional right to bear arms. What a bunch of BS.

I don't know about all that. I own a 700 from the 60's that has that particular trigger. At one time you could send the rifle into Remington to have it fixed/replaced with the new style trigger. I personally saw this on their website so I know it happened/was available. The issue with the original trigger was excess dirt/dust building up in the trigger mechanism. If you chambered a round, put it on safety and pulled the trigger when you took it back off safety it may fire. I tested this many times on my rifle and it never happened. I declined to send the rifle in and I always make sure it is pointed in a safe direction when taking it off safety. I also keep my rifles clean. In my opinion you shouldn't be messing around with the trigger of a loaded gun safety on or not unless you intend it to go off.

/pine · Jul 18, 2014

Does this trigger issue involve the use of the safety?

From what I was told...there is a possibility of a discharge when the safety is disengaged...

bindian · Jul 18, 2014

EddieWalker said:
I've never heard of a Jewel trigger. I replaced the factory trigger on my 700 BDL years ago with a Timney trigger that I really like. Very smooth and crisp. Looking at Midway Jewell Rifle Trigger Remington 700 40X Safety 1-1/2oz to 3 lb SS I see it sells for $233 and the Timney is $130. One of the things that we really liked about the Remington when out shopping and comparing them to the other rifles was how smooth the bolt was, and how nice the trigger felt. The factory trigger was very easy to adjust to just the right amount of pressure for Karen.

Neither of us ever use the safety. We only put a bullet in the barrel when we are about to shoot something. I would rather miss out on shooting an animal, then take a chance with a loader rifle. This is something that I'm very **** about and what I insist on with those I'm teaching to shoot. Does this trigger issue involve the use of the safety?

From their website, there is only one gunsmith in Texas that can fix her rifle, and he is about a four hour drive away. We might wait until we get back from our safari to South Africa and take a road trip.

I will admit that this has me more then just disappointed in Remington. Not sure if I'll ever buy another one.

Eddie