Repair manuals

[Farmwithjunk]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( One thing I've found, the I&T manuals use the oem shop manuals for reference.. the bigger the oem shop manual.. the better the I&T.

JD was better than nothing.

Soundguy )</font>

You might have just touched upon the reason why I&T manuals on John Deere aren't all that swift.

Deere is VERY "exclusive" with their co-operation and sharing of ANYTHING. They want a licensing fee for anything using their name, their info, or their products. I'm sure they would NOT allow anyone to use portions of their manuals for the purpose of publishing a "knock off" manual. Mother Deere wants all the $$$$ for themselves.

Deere "O.E.M." manuals are about the best I've ever ran across. VERY detailed.

Some older Massey Ferguson manuals are extremely vague. They need "suplimental" manuals. (i.e. The service manuals for my 150 don't even have a wiring diagram. A "2nd grade sketch" version of the wiring diagram is included in the owners manual, but it doesn't even list the availability of an alternator. (Early 135's, 150's and 165's had generators. The last few years of production, they used GM style alternators. The manuals weren't updated beyond merely mentioning the alternator.) The parts manual shows both, but without wiring diagrams.

I&T manuals help fill that void.

 

[Farmwithjunk]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( One thing I've found, the I&T manuals use the oem shop manuals for reference.. the bigger the oem shop manual.. the better the I&T.

JD was better than nothing.

Soundguy )</font>

You might have just touched upon the reason why I&T manuals on John Deere aren't all that swift.

Deere is VERY "exclusive" with their co-operation and sharing of ANYTHING. They want a licensing fee for anything using their name, their info, or their products. I'm sure they would NOT allow anyone to use portions of their manuals for the purpose of publishing a "knock off" manual. Mother Deere wants all the $$$$ for themselves.

Deere "O.E.M." manuals are about the best I've ever ran across. VERY detailed.

Some older Massey Ferguson manuals are extremely vague. They need "suplimental" manuals. (i.e. The service manuals for my 150 don't even have a wiring diagram. A "2nd grade sketch" version of the wiring diagram is included in the owners manual, but it doesn't even list the availability of an alternator. (Early 135's, 150's and 165's had generators. The last few years of production, they used GM style alternators. The manuals weren't updated beyond merely mentioning the alternator.) The parts manual shows both, but without wiring diagrams.

I&T manuals help fill that void.

 

[Bedlam]

Well thanks for all the responces. I guess the manual will sure be better than what I have now.(none). And Im sure you get what you pay for. I ususally buy the shop repair manual when I buy a new car. They are expensive. But Ive used them often. As for the tractor, I usually dont have alot of troubles where I need to go beyond the procedure of take it apart and see. But not ever using this manual I linked to, I wasnt sure if it would be lkike some of the auto manuals, and too "basic".
Either way the money seems well spent.
I wish I could still have a good relationship with the dealer to be able to go and take a look at their books, but unfortunately the dealer sould out to a larger local chain, and I am not very high on the customer list.
Thanks for all the responces, and Ill try to do the link right next time. I am somewhat new to this and the comp.
Thanks
Allan

 

[Bedlam]

Well thanks for all the responces. I guess the manual will sure be better than what I have now.(none). And Im sure you get what you pay for. I ususally buy the shop repair manual when I buy a new car. They are expensive. But Ive used them often. As for the tractor, I usually dont have alot of troubles where I need to go beyond the procedure of take it apart and see. But not ever using this manual I linked to, I wasnt sure if it would be lkike some of the auto manuals, and too "basic".
Either way the money seems well spent.
I wish I could still have a good relationship with the dealer to be able to go and take a look at their books, but unfortunately the dealer sould out to a larger local chain, and I am not very high on the customer list.
Thanks for all the responces, and Ill try to do the link right next time. I am somewhat new to this and the comp.
Thanks
Allan

 

[Soundguy]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( You might have just touched upon the reason why I&T manuals on John Deere aren't all that swift.

Deere is VERY "exclusive" with their co-operation and sharing of ANYTHING )</font>

Yep... and those deer manuals must be printed on gold leaf if you look at the price. I paid 90$ for a service manual for my JD-B.. and it only covers the sn range my tractor is in. there is actually 2 other manuals for the B, each covering a different SN range /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Some older Massey Ferguson manuals are extremely vague. They need "suplimental" manuals. )</font>

While the ford manuals are some of the better ones I've seen, I must note that they used suppliments as well. For instance.. the SOS tranny info was not contained int he main manual, past just identifying that the tractor may have the option of the SOS.. you had to get the sos leaflet seperate.. etc..

I've got a couple jensales manuals.. not too bad quality..

Soundguy

 

[Soundguy]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( You might have just touched upon the reason why I&T manuals on John Deere aren't all that swift.

Deere is VERY "exclusive" with their co-operation and sharing of ANYTHING )</font>

Yep... and those deer manuals must be printed on gold leaf if you look at the price. I paid 90$ for a service manual for my JD-B.. and it only covers the sn range my tractor is in. there is actually 2 other manuals for the B, each covering a different SN range /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Some older Massey Ferguson manuals are extremely vague. They need "suplimental" manuals. )</font>

While the ford manuals are some of the better ones I've seen, I must note that they used suppliments as well. For instance.. the SOS tranny info was not contained int he main manual, past just identifying that the tractor may have the option of the SOS.. you had to get the sos leaflet seperate.. etc..

I've got a couple jensales manuals.. not too bad quality..

Soundguy