Replacing Sector Shaft on 1300D Red Hood

[kmh234]

Hi All,

I recently bought a Yanmar 1300D (4x4) red hood with a broken sector shaft (two interior gears are sheared off, see attached pics) thinking it would be a simple enough part to replace.... I was sorely mistaken! Would really appreciate any suggestions/insights others with more experience might have to offer.

Basic issue: Several tractor part companies offer a "replacement" sector shaft for the stated model of my tractor, which look very similar, but the shaft that they stock is narrower in diameter than the one that broke on my tractor. They suggested that perhaps since it is a 4x4 that it was manufactured with a heftier shaft. I cannot seem to find a premanufactured shaft, even from other make/models, that have same dimensions.

Any suggestions on where else to check and/or has anyone successfully swapped out the whole steering box on this model with a steering box from another make/model? If so, what did you use? In addition to pics of the broken shaft, I also attached a dimensioned sketch, for what it's worth.

Companies that I have contacted with no success in finding a matching part:
Hoye
Southern Farm Equipment (awaiting response)
Fredricks Equipment
Mid West Steering
Broken Tractor
Steiner

 

[winston1]

Might try this one. Best Farm Parts - Sector Shaft, Horizontal for Yanmar F13, F165D, 122, 126, 135, 135D, 140, 142, 146, 147, 186, 155, 155D, 165, 165D, 1300 Red, 1301, 1401, 1502, 1510, 1602

 

[bmaverick]

Hi All,

I recently bought a Yanmar 1300D (4x4) red hood with a broken sector shaft (two interior gears are sheared off, see attached pics) thinking it would be a simple enough part to replace.... I was sorely mistaken! Would really appreciate any suggestions/insights others with more experience might have to offer.

Basic issue: Several tractor part companies offer a "replacement" sector shaft for the stated model of my tractor, which look very similar, but the shaft that they stock is narrower in diameter than the one that broke on my tractor. They suggested that perhaps since it is a 4x4 that it was manufactured with a heftier shaft. I cannot seem to find a premanufactured shaft, even from other make/models, that have same dimensions.

Any suggestions on where else to check and/or has anyone successfully swapped out the whole steering box on this model with a steering box from another make/model? If so, what did you use? In addition to pics of the broken shaft, I also attached a dimensioned sketch, for what it's worth.

Companies that I have contacted with no success in finding a matching part:
Hoye
Southern Farm Equipment (awaiting response)
Fredricks Equipment
Mid West Steering
Broken Tractor
Steiner

I really like your drawing.

As for the dimensions, Yanmar did/does everything in METRIC. And most machine shops can do CNC metric really easy too.

Here's our parts suppliers on the Yanmar Tractor owners Group. You've nailed a few of them already. And I'm going to need to update Winston's find to the list too.

PARTS FOR OLDER USA YANMAR MODELS, GRAY MARKET AND JOHN DEERE SIBLINGS
Most listing here allow for local parts pickup. Please call first in this covid19 era.

FREDRICKS EQUIPMENT
1312 South Bethel Rd.
Decatur, AL 35603
PARTS HOTLINE - 256-751-3555
email - parts@fredricksequipment.com
NEW On-Line SHOPPING - https://fredricksequipment.com/shop
Yanmar; YM / FX / F / Ke, John Deere / Kubota / Iseki / Mahindra / Others

HOYE TRACTOR PARTS INC.
2099 US Hwy 287 E
Iowa Park, TX 76367
PARTS HOTLINE - 940-592-0181
Contact page - Yanmar Tractor Parts:
On-Line Shopping - Yanmar Tractor Parts:
Yanmar Parts / John Deere / Yanmar Marine engine parts

SOUTHERN GLOBAL
404 First Street North
Wiggins, MS 39577
PARTS HOTLINE - 866-742-5748 Toll Free
email - sales@southern-global.com
On-Line Shopping - https://www.southern-global.com
New parts for Yanmar / John Deere / Others
Japan Tractor Salvage Yard
Engine overhaul/rebuild kits

STEVENS TRACTOR PARTS
3715 Highway 71
Coushatta, LA 71019
PARTS HOTLINE - 800-333-9143 Toll Free
email - sales@stevenstractor.com
On-Line Shopping - https://www.stevenstractor.com
Japanese and Domestic Tractor Parts for many makes and model brands
Engine overhaul/rebuild kits

WEAVER'S COMPACT TRACTOR
22 Fish Hatchery Rd
Shippensburg PA 17257
PARTS HOTLINE - 717-477-9332
On-Line Shopping - https://www.compactractorparts.com
Japanese and Domestic Tractor Parts for many makes and model brands

ALL STATES AG PARTS
10 Ellefson Dr
De Soto, IA 50069
email - support@tractorpartsasap.com
PARTS HOTLINE - 866-609-1260 Toll Free
On-Line Shopping - https://www.tractorpartsasap.com
13 Locations for tractors and parts, 10 salvage yards, and 2 repair centers all in the Mid-West
Japanese and Domestic Tractor Parts for many makes and model brands

SHEAFFER'S TOWN & COUNTRY TRACTORS INC.
320 Palmyra Rd
Dixon, IL 61021
PARTS HOTLINE - 815-284-3226
email - parts@sheftractor.net
On-Line Shopping - https://www.japanesetractorparts.com
Japanese and Domestic Tractor Parts for many makes and model brands

TRACTOR JOE PARTS
14385 23 Ave N
Plymouth, MN 55447
PARTS HOTLINE - 888-860-9096 Toll Free
On-Line Shopping - Yanmar Parts | Up to 60% off Dealer Prices | TractorJoe.com
Strong Yanmar Gray Market parts provider
Offers a comprehensive selection of equipment and parts for US Yanmar & Yanmar Gray Market tractors

 

[kmh234]

Might try this one. Best Farm Parts - Sector Shaft, Horizontal for Yanmar F13, F165D, 122, 126, 135, 135D, 140, 142, 146, 147, 186, 155, 155D, 165, 165D, 1300 Red, 1301, 1401, 1502, 1510, 1602

Thanks, Winston! I'll give them a try. TBH, it looks like the same one listed on other sites, with the usual list of compatible model numbers. I think the issue is the 1300 Red is listed, but not the 1300D (and it's my understanding from this new world of Yanmar language I'm learning that "D" stands for 4x4 - which might be part of the problem I'm having, no one seems to list parts for the 4x4 model). But please correct me if I'm wrong on the "D" interpretation!

 

[kmh234]

I really like your drawing.

As for the dimensions, Yanmar did/does everything in METRIC. And most machine shops can do CNC metric really easy too.

Here's our parts suppliers on the Yanmar Tractor owners Group. You've nailed a few of them already. And I'm going to need to update Winston's find to the list too.

PARTS FOR OLDER USA YANMAR MODELS, GRAY MARKET AND JOHN DEERE SIBLINGS
Most listing here allow for local parts pickup. Please call first in this covid19 era.

FREDRICKS EQUIPMENT
1312 South Bethel Rd.
Decatur, AL 35603
PARTS HOTLINE - 256-751-3555
email - parts@fredricksequipment.com
NEW On-Line SHOPPING - https://fredricksequipment.com/shop
Yanmar; YM / FX / F / Ke, John Deere / Kubota / Iseki / Mahindra / Others

HOYE TRACTOR PARTS INC.
2099 US Hwy 287 E
Iowa Park, TX 76367
PARTS HOTLINE - 940-592-0181
Contact page - Yanmar Tractor Parts:
On-Line Shopping - Yanmar Tractor Parts:
Yanmar Parts / John Deere / Yanmar Marine engine parts

SOUTHERN GLOBAL
404 First Street North
Wiggins, MS 39577
PARTS HOTLINE - 866-742-5748 Toll Free
email - sales@southern-global.com
On-Line Shopping - https://www.southern-global.com
New parts for Yanmar / John Deere / Others
Japan Tractor Salvage Yard
Engine overhaul/rebuild kits

STEVENS TRACTOR PARTS
3715 Highway 71
Coushatta, LA 71019
PARTS HOTLINE - 800-333-9143 Toll Free
email - sales@stevenstractor.com
On-Line Shopping - https://www.stevenstractor.com
Japanese and Domestic Tractor Parts for many makes and model brands
Engine overhaul/rebuild kits

WEAVER'S COMPACT TRACTOR
22 Fish Hatchery Rd
Shippensburg PA 17257
PARTS HOTLINE - 717-477-9332
On-Line Shopping - https://www.compactractorparts.com
Japanese and Domestic Tractor Parts for many makes and model brands

ALL STATES AG PARTS
10 Ellefson Dr
De Soto, IA 50069
email - support@tractorpartsasap.com
PARTS HOTLINE - 866-609-1260 Toll Free
On-Line Shopping - https://www.tractorpartsasap.com
13 Locations for tractors and parts, 10 salvage yards, and 2 repair centers all in the Mid-West
Japanese and Domestic Tractor Parts for many makes and model brands

SHEAFFER'S TOWN & COUNTRY TRACTORS INC.
320 Palmyra Rd
Dixon, IL 61021
PARTS HOTLINE - 815-284-3226
email - parts@sheftractor.net
On-Line Shopping - https://www.japanesetractorparts.com
Japanese and Domestic Tractor Parts for many makes and model brands

TRACTOR JOE PARTS
14385 23 Ave N
Plymouth, MN 55447
PARTS HOTLINE - 888-860-9096 Toll Free
On-Line Shopping - Yanmar Parts | Up to 60% off Dealer Prices | TractorJoe.com
Strong Yanmar Gray Market parts provider
Offers a comprehensive selection of equipment and parts for US Yanmar & Yanmar Gray Market tractors

Bmaverick, thanks for the list! There's a few on there I haven't stumbled on yet, so I'll give them a try. One company wanted me to ship them the old part so they could try to match it to something they had on shelf and I was like ummmm, how about a drawing instead? I don't care if a drawing gets lost! lol. See my response to Winston's comment. Does any of that make sense regarding the "D" model? I'm still learning the ins-n-outs of vintage Yanmar.

 

[California]

Generally, except for the front axle and transmission output, the 'D' (4x4) versions are identical in nearly everything. Your steering box might be unique - but I doubt it.

 

[kmh234]

Generally, except for the front axle and transmission output, the 'D' (4x4) versions are identical in nearly everything. Your steering box might be unique - but I doubt it.

California, thanks for the clarification. If that's the case, then I don't know what the heck is going on. Maybe a prior owner swapped out the steering box at some point?

 

[California]

California, thanks for the clarification. If that's the case, then I don't know what the heck is going on. Maybe a prior owner swapped out the steering box at some point?

Could be a Frankensteinmar. A unique tractor assembled from whatever was in the bin that a VN refurb factory bought from a scrapyard. With a few components made by by a kid who was handed a file and told he has a week to fabricate an unobtainable part.

Ok, that's worst case. More likely, if that steering box never appears in the YM1300 Parts Manual then it came off a very similar Yanmar and can be replaced when you figure out what it came from.

Worst (most expensive) case, there are CNC shops that can fabricate anything.

 

[careyo63]

I thought I just seen this one. Asking price will he get that ? no.... Yanmar YM1300 4X4 tractor - farm & garden - by owner - sale
Ask high you can come down but it's real hard to go up!!

 

[California]

I thought I just seen this one. Asking price will he get that ? no.... Yanmar YM1300 4X4 tractor - farm & garden - by owner - sale
Ask high you can come down but it's real hard to go up!!

What a bargain!

Are those solid skid-steer 'tires' on the back?

 

[careyo63]

She's a Beauty!! This tractor may be #1 worst deal ever for a Yanmar.............. He may part it up and get 1/3 of that asking price. Then you actually look at the steering wheel and that might be doubtful. SMDH.

 

[California]

I thought I just seen this one. Asking price will he get that ? no.... Yanmar YM1300 4X4 tractor - farm & garden - by owner - sale
Ask high you can come down but it's real hard to go up!!

Hey kmh234!

There's your steering box, complete, right there!

Take a trailer. There might even be other usable parts.

 

[careyo63]

Pulled it back up and took a good look at it on my last reply. And really the only reason I mentioned it was i never heard of that part being a very common problem so it maybe good . New it was rough is why I mentioned the price. Not much there. Hard parts since everything else has been BTH. and back......

 

[kmh234]

Hey kmh234!

There's your steering box, complete, right there!

Take a trailer. There might even be other usable parts.

As tempting as that is, I live in northern california. Kind of a long drive! Maybe I'll call the guy and see if he'd be willing to part it out.... never hurts to ask.

 

[California]

Another long shot to try: When I replaced the steering box on my prior YM186D I googled a casting # I saw on the side of the box and found mention of it in a forum where someone was restoring a Datsun 240Z. The trademark logo on my box matched his. So Yanmar must have been using a generic steering box supplied to Japanese car manufacturers as well. Going down that rabbithole might take a lot of investigation. I ended up buying a rebuilt steering box from Hoye.

PM sent, re a scrapyard that said he is now out of business. He would have had a steering box. If you get a useful reply from him, who he sold his inventory to or something, please post it here.

 

[kmh234]

Another long shot to try: When I replaced the steering box on my prior YM186D I googled a casting # I saw on the side of the box and found mention of it in a forum where someone was restoring a Datsun 240Z. The trademark logo on my box matched his. So Yanmar must have been using a generic steering box supplied to Japanese car manufacturers as well. Going down that rabbithole might take a lot of investigation. I ended up buying a rebuilt steering box from Hoye.

PM sent, re a scrapyard that said he is now out of business. He would have had a steering box. If you get a useful reply from him, who he sold his inventory to or something, please post it here.

Thanks for all the great information! I'll check out the 240Z option.

Also, for anyone interested in the CL ad lead, we called the guy and he was willing to sell the steering box for the asking price of the tractor... so probably a no-go, but that'd be a great parts tractor for someone who lives closer to the guy!

 

[careyo63]

That things local and real close. There's 2 Fredrick supplied dealers 30 min. from there. Been on CL. a month or so. It's not going anywhere. 750 for the steering plus shipping. One reason I jumped on my Ym2000 was the American model basically and parts avail. It was in such good condition Spalding kept it Org. UTDA back then even... I still chuckle to the day when I asked steve were he got it. Mumbled a little but really wouldn't say. I handed him a Chk. for his asking price no Negotiation........... knowing what I gave for it from a dealer that 750 is insane. Not going anywhere. Not even to Ca..........