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[ProdaddyTX]

TX has a point about these tractors being 30yrs old as opposed to just over 20 years old today vs the year 2000. But one would think the price on a YM 00 machine to fall and the 10 or 20's to be taking there place as for as price goes and soon the fx or whatever is next to be sliding in there as the next big thing? jsut thoughts though.

Hey Clemson, I think you're right, in a vaccuum the older stuff would just slide lower and lower in price... But when you add in the effects of fluctuating exchange rates & transoprtation costs, good economy, bad economy, more competition, it gets muddy in a hurry. I dunno, the downturn in tractor sales because of the economy has made it easier for use to get lower hour machines over the last year or so.... my supplier may be making more money off of me and I just don't know it....but I don't think so. We've lowered our prices substantially vs a year ago just to keep things moving, but my costs haven't come down any.

 

[ProdaddyTX]

Oh my othere point i forgot, smoody and i said buy used and save, most of the used machines are from frederics or hoye or people like steve who reconditioned with new stuff like you say 2-10 years ago if everyery thing was done why should this now used tractor with 300 more hours than the original guy bought it with need all kinds of work on it , just new fluids and such.

Yeah, for sure...find one that had quality work done a few years ago when it got imported, and now somebody's selling it for a few thousand less = having your cake and eating it too.... assuming that the last guy didn't abuse it. I'd like to find more of those to take in trade.

 

[bruce1966us]

most of the used machines are from frederics or hoye or people like steve who reconditioned with new stuff like you say 2-10 years ago if everyery thing was done why should this now used tractor with 300 more hours than the original guy bought it with need all kinds of work on it , just new fluids and such.

lol. something to think about

 

[clemsonfor]

Im not saying that the used tractors just came from there an d people dont like them anymore. There probly are just as many VN machins for sale but think about how many tractors fredrics alone does then look at other people, (bestused tractors not sure if there us reconed or not?) People sell yanmars here everyday good chance most of these had same sort of us reconditioning, but that does not always mean pulled pistons, maybe just fresh paint seat new radiator or something not total rebuild i guess.

 

[bruce1966us]

IMHO Dealers are foolish if they rebuild a perfectly good running engine. That is why I buy mine in good running/operating condition. So I don't have to overhaul the engine....

 

[careyo63]

Perfect example of what I did and didn't buy a Refurbished tracter that was on the lot also. For almost Half the price. And after the dealer seen it on here and the paperwork and reciepts we was going over Stated Dang I sold that to you way to Cheap I believe he forgot the 650.00 ROP's that wasn't on there also.:laughing:

 

[kenmac]

OK, now your taking my point out of context, to make it simple for you..
I think there is a price point for a 30 yr old Yanmar tractor and from the prices I am seeing in 2010 that point is overly exceeded. That doesn't make me right, its my opinion. Consumers shouldn't be OK with paying more then something is worth, that just promotes future increase of prices that are already high, ,again IMO.

I would also like to state that my comments in this thread are not directed at any one dealer on this site, particularly in this case ProdaddyTX. They and anyone else selling has the right to charge what they want, I should be able to state my opinion as others without it turning into a argument about one's business. If you are happy with the amount of money you spent on your Yanmar I'm happy for you.

I am just plain sick of seeing the same crap about importing fee's, tractor condition, blah blah blah to justify pricing, its bogus.

I will man up and apologize to anyone I offended, I enjoy the site and consider it a invaluable resource, I enjoy debate as much as the next, but I am stopping it here because life's to short to make enemies.

Regards

I don't know about anyone else but, I'm not offended.Not just a 30 yr old tractor but, there is a price point on anything. Just look at the housing market, new vehicle market, etc,. I have no Idea what profit is made on one of these tractors no more than I know what's made on a new tractor, vehicle, etc,. If / when the tractors get too expensive . Things will take care of it's self. That's what happens in the market. Believe me I know about the market / economy. I've had to lower my prices some. I've got friends that have done the same. With that said. One can only lower their prices so much & still stay in business. The prices on these tractors are out there for everyone to see. You either buy or you don't. If they bought the tractors for $5.00 & sold them for $200.00 It's ok with me. They took all the risk to try to start a business. My hats off to them for taking the chance & risk that someone might just want to buy one of these tractors

 

[winston1]

quote "If they bought the tractors for $5.00 and sold them for $200 it's OK with me."

Kenmac, that doesn't seem right to me. While I agree business must make profit I think you are talking greed here. Probably not any Yanmar dealers out there thinking this way, at least I hope not. It wouldn't be OK with me if they were.

 

[ProdaddyTX]

quote "If they bought the tractors for $5.00 and sold them for $200 it's OK with me."

Kenmac, that doesn't seem right to me. While I agree business must make profit I think you are talking greed here. Probably not any Yanmar dealers out there thinking this way, at least I hope not. It wouldn't be OK with me if they were.

I think only Microsoft makes those kinds of margins....

 

[clemsonfor]

Ibought a used boxblade from a guy and after talking found out that he was the guy in edefield SC who, he and his dad use to sell the VN tractors there. He said they dont anymore due to the collapse of the ecconmy and they were all cash. He said they never had any problems with them call it low volume or lucky, i dont know (not trying to start that debate here though on VN tractors). Remember he was not trying to sell me on one just telling me about his tractor experience as a tractor guy, this guy put an add in iwwana and i responded went to look and bought the box only after he tells me this so it has no effect on my purchase of his box which is irrelevent to yanmars, he actually had what looked like an early 80's mitsu 40 hp.

My point, he said he still has his dealer recognition and will sell them for $500 or $600 over his cost in the thing, which puts them in the neighborhood in which i paid for mine (also a vn). This profit is lower than other vn dealers im sure as the shipping is put on a single unit not a trailer load of them but that was what he probly made while in business or similar. They still have there shop and always sold used tractors and implements i beleive. He had and always had another job, he worked for a county in a roads dept, i know it was the truth as he has a truck with a state tag and was still wearing the shirt from the town. His dad was the primary guy who im not sure if hes still there selling tractor stuff or retired?


Againd this is not to start a vn debate over us tractors i was just pointing out what this guy told me. Which i already had a tractor and i was buy ing a BB from him before i even knew this.

-Nate