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JerryG
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Doesn't a BX 22 have a folding ROPS?
Resale of modified ROPS tractor
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thcri
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Robert,
Your points are well taken, but I want to know what dealers are doing about modified ROPS that are traded in. )</font>
Jerry,
I am sure every dealer handles it different. You have some dealers that are very cautious about sending out a bad ROPS and some who just don't care. They are willing to take a chance or they don't know what some insurance companies and attorneys will actually do. If I was the dealer, I would replace the ROPS or tell the person your dealing with he must replace it before he would take it in on trade. Good chance nothing would ever come of it but why take the chance.
murph
Your points are well taken, but I want to know what dealers are doing about modified ROPS that are traded in. )</font>
Jerry,
I am sure every dealer handles it different. You have some dealers that are very cautious about sending out a bad ROPS and some who just don't care. They are willing to take a chance or they don't know what some insurance companies and attorneys will actually do. If I was the dealer, I would replace the ROPS or tell the person your dealing with he must replace it before he would take it in on trade. Good chance nothing would ever come of it but why take the chance.
murph
RobertN
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This whole idea just has me curious every time it comes up. So, I called a local Jeep dealer and a local Kubota dealer.
The Jeep dealer said they take Jeeps with ad-on cages, although they do inspect them closely to see that it was done well and the welds are good(at least visually). If it is a poor addition, they may not take the trade, or will take money off the trade so they can replace the roll bar.
The Kubota dealer said ROPS are an OSHA requirement for a tractor. They take modified ROPS tractors on trade at thier discretion. They replace the modified ROPS at thier discretion.
FYI, the Kubota dealer recomended a factory light kit for the B-series. The factory kit is a clamp on setup, and was originally made for the B21
FWIW...
The Jeep dealer said they take Jeeps with ad-on cages, although they do inspect them closely to see that it was done well and the welds are good(at least visually). If it is a poor addition, they may not take the trade, or will take money off the trade so they can replace the roll bar.
The Kubota dealer said ROPS are an OSHA requirement for a tractor. They take modified ROPS tractors on trade at thier discretion. They replace the modified ROPS at thier discretion.
FYI, the Kubota dealer recomended a factory light kit for the B-series. The factory kit is a clamp on setup, and was originally made for the B21
FWIW...
SeymourBota
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When I bought my 2410 I wanted a solid ROPS, as I didn't plan on using a BH and knew it would fit my garage door. A foldable would have required a stop outside each time to fold up/down.
There was only one 2410 at that time in New England with a solid ROPS. I asked the dealer about just changing the ROPS (like they change tires) and was told that the tractor and ROPS serial numbers were "attached" to each other and the swap couldn't be made.
Luckily, the dealer with the tractor I wanted decided to swap it with my dealer.
There was only one 2410 at that time in New England with a solid ROPS. I asked the dealer about just changing the ROPS (like they change tires) and was told that the tractor and ROPS serial numbers were "attached" to each other and the swap couldn't be made.
Luckily, the dealer with the tractor I wanted decided to swap it with my dealer.
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Just for fun. A side note on that ----- Standards for ROPS published by these organizations include OSHA 1926.1000, OSHA 1926.1002, OSHA 1928.51, OSHA 1928.52, OSHA 1928.53, ASAE S383.1 and S581, and SAE J1194 and J2194. The OSHA standards are federal regulations and require labeling of each ROPS, while the ASAE and SAE standards are voluntary standards. The OSHA regulations require that all tractors built after October 25, 1976 and used by employees of a farm owner be equipped with ROPS. OSHA, however, does not have jurisdiction to enforce the regulation on farms with fewer than 11 employees.
Which goes on to 1926.1002(a)
General.
1926.1002(a)(1)
The purpose of this section is to set forth requirements for frames for the protection of operators of wheel type agricultural and industrial tractors to minimize the possibility of operator injury resulting from accidental upsets during normal operation. With respect to agricultural and industrial tractors, the provisions of 1926.1001 and 1926.1003 for rubber-tired dozers and rubber-tired loaders may be utilized in lieu of the requirements of this section. These frames shall meet the test and performance requirements of the Standard J334a-1970 , Protective Frame Test Procedures and Performance Requirements, which is incorporated by reference.
Which goes on to 1926.1002(a)
General.
1926.1002(a)(1)
The purpose of this section is to set forth requirements for frames for the protection of operators of wheel type agricultural and industrial tractors to minimize the possibility of operator injury resulting from accidental upsets during normal operation. With respect to agricultural and industrial tractors, the provisions of 1926.1001 and 1926.1003 for rubber-tired dozers and rubber-tired loaders may be utilized in lieu of the requirements of this section. These frames shall meet the test and performance requirements of the Standard J334a-1970 , Protective Frame Test Procedures and Performance Requirements, which is incorporated by reference.
radair
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It is worth noting that OSHA regulations are for occupational use - i.e. the average homeowner buying a tractor is not an employee and the standards don't apply.
Of course, JD, Kubota et al must manufacture and sell assuming that their product could be used in commercial use and build their ROPS to meet the requirements.
Of course, JD, Kubota et al must manufacture and sell assuming that their product could be used in commercial use and build their ROPS to meet the requirements.
