Residential ZTR, which one to look at:

   / Residential ZTR, which one to look at: #11  
For 800.00 bucks more you can get a commercial 42" Hustler Mini Z with the 19hp Kawasaki and ZT transmissions with the spin on oil filters.
They just came out with 36 and 42" commercial models this year.
They are worth a look if you have a dealer locally.
 
   / Residential ZTR, which one to look at: #12  
When looking, check for things like no plastic idler gears on the deck, as little stamped sheet metal as possible, especially in the fram and deck. The frame should be heavy welded tubing. low pressure tires are a plus for better ride. ball or roller bearing in steering forks. comfortable seat, preferably with arm rests. adjustable controls that are easy to make slight movements when doing fine control, not too much resistance. We have just started selling Dixie Chopper, but they start out at about 6K (what a Mow-chine though!) I looked closely at Country Clipper and in fact will handle thier residential machines in the $3-4K range, and Toro in the under $3500 range. there have been lots of low price mowers that have come out and many of them look like the cheap lawn tractors, throw away units, hardly serviceable. I'd go to the dealer with the several brands and see the differences are between the models and drive the ones you are seriously considering, on your lawn wiht the blades running if possible.
 
   / Residential ZTR, which one to look at: #13  
For no reason other than curiousity [I'd always had Cub Cadet garden tractors until getting a good deal on a Snapper commercial Z last year], what made the Dixie Choppers more attractive than the Country Clipper commercial machines? I think Dixie's plant is closer to your area so might be a more recognized name for your customers, but did the Dixie have heavier components or better feel or more bang/buck....?
 
   / Residential ZTR, which one to look at: #14  
The smoothness of operation of the DC in my opinion is unmatched. they use oversized everything like pumps and wheel motors (no transaxles) and it is very solid and precise. Also the brand name recognition and marketing programs put them at the top for us. They are competitive when compared to true commercial grade machines.

The neat thing about the country clipper is the flip up deck. it is not as easy as it looks in the video on thier website (that gal works out quite a bit I think) but it isn't bad. The country clipper commercial units fit right in with the pack. nothing really made them stand out from the local leaders here (grasshopper, exmark and hustler not necessarily in that order). Personally I like the Joystick, but not eveyone does (they make both) I first saw a joystic on residential Snapper ZTR a few years ago. Snapper was buying them from Country Clippers parent company at one time, then started making thier own.

Money not withstanding, I personally cant see how anything could be made much better than the chopper, but I also know that with prices starting at almost $6k and going into the teens, it is a lot to spend for a lawn mower. as the ad says: "your grandchildren will thank you". The founder of DC refuses to build down to price and maintains his commitment to "make a mower that won't break when you use it"

So we are going to stock some residential grade Toro and the Jazee one for those that just arn't in the price range of the DC.

Oh, and actually the Clipper is made in Iowa and the Dixie Chopper in Indiana...so the clipper travels less to get here.

probably sorry you asked by now, sometimes my fingers get to talkative.
 
   / Residential ZTR, which one to look at: #15  
I am making the same decision.

Probably going with the Hustler FasTrack 52 inch deck and Honda engine. Will go with the Kohler if its the Command.

Check them out before you decide. They have a $700 rebate through the end of the month. That makes it not too much more than the Z50 CC. Lots of the hustler has a lifetime warranty and other parts have 4-years. This thing is a tank.

Greg
 
   / Residential ZTR, which one to look at: #16  
<font color="blue"> probably sorry you asked by now, sometimes my fingers get to talkative. </font>

To the contrary; very informative reply! Thanks!

I'm quite impressed that DC doesn't make an economy model! <font color="blue"> "your grandchildren will thank you". The founder of DC refuses to build down to price and maintains his commitment to "make a mower that won't break when you use it"
</font> /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif The only others I can think of not making consumer models are Scag and Grasshopper, though I'll always think of GH as frontmounts [which I would like to have someday] only despite making mids now too.

I do like the flip deck concept on the CC, but then I have the FEL for that! Oh, Oh, think I hear the safety police coming....do as I say not as I do! /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
   / Residential ZTR, which one to look at: #17  
I have fairly recent exp. with ariens zt, I would rather buy a walk behind than put of with the frustration of this junk.

I bought it brand new, was lucky to get two mowings done without some kind of problem, ranging from cheap/defective safety switchs to bad transmission.

The part that really got me was after the transmission was replaced under warr. they could not get it to where when pushing the levers both equal amounts forward the thing would always be turning...ie no full speed forward unless you wanted to turn. I finally emailed the factory about this (I feel the second transmission was probably bad or slow too) and the "official" response from the factory was that I could correct the problem by letting air out of the tires on one side!!!! I couldn't believe what I was reading.....that was it...final fix let air out of tires to correct ground speed problem.

One thing to watch out for on these is how to sharpen blades, that was nearly impossible on the one I had, and should be the highest amount of maint required so check that aspect out good.

Ariens had little plastic dust cover caps over the front wheels that get lost right away and then the bearings are exposed on the front wheels, the height guide wheels break off easily on the deck, the safety switchs go bad (there are multiple switches) leaving it disabled, the linkage from the drive levers to the transmissions comes disconnected.

As I said I would get a walk behind before I would go Ariens again.

Dan (now owns a John Deere)
 
   / Residential ZTR, which one to look at: #18  
What model Ariens did you have?
 
   / Residential ZTR, which one to look at: #19  
What model Ariens did you have?
 
   / Residential ZTR, which one to look at: #20  
i am guessing, I think it was a 16 hp 48" cut and model 1648 sounds about right---it was all orange
 

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