Restarting My '70 Nova Project

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Your friends Nova looks awesome, and it must be producing great amounts of HP to be running in the 8 sec. range. Nice to see you enjoying yours. I,m guessing your motor will produce at least 450 HP at the rear wheels. What would your guess be ?
He claimed it's putting out around 1,000HP, I'm not sure how much it would take to run in the 8s, but I imagine it would take close to that.
I'm guessing mine will put about 400HP to the wheels, so around 500HP at the flywheel. I'm going to call Pro Motor to see when I could get it in to run it on the chassis dyno.
I also want to get the Nova weighed, just to see how much heavier or lighter it is than my old '69 big block that weighed about 3,300lbs.
 
   / Restarting My '70 Nova Project #672  
Yes, it is nice to get an idea of the weight of the vehicle. When we did the 5.0 mustang engine swap into a miata, i lucked out the day I went to get a 4 wheel alignment done. Just as I was pulling into the alignment shop, a guy I know that owns the local speedway was just walking back to his truck. He was very surprised to hear the cammed 5.0 rumble coming from a miata, so he came over to ask about it. One of his questions was, how much does it weigh ? I said, I,m not sure, should be around 2500 lbs according to others that had done the same conversion. He says, I have 4 individual scales with me in my truck, I can tell you exactly the weight per corner. I had just filled the gas tank, because I wanted max. weight for the alignment, and my car weighed in at 2590. The front to rear weight balance was 52/48. Not bad considering all the extra bracing in the engine bay and under the body.
 
   / Restarting My '70 Nova Project #673  
Is your Nova full frame or unibody? I would think it’s less than 3500 pounds.
 
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Is your Nova full frame or unibody? I would think it’s less than 3500 pounds.
It's a combination, it has a subframe in the front, the rest is unibody. Camaros and Firebirds of that era were built the same way. GM called them X-bodies.
 
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Took the Nova to the alignment shop yesterday, got it done in the afternoon, and a neighbor took me to get it. It drives pretty much like it did before, but now the steering wheel is centered. The tech ended up removing all the shims I had installed when I assembled the suspension, and the crossbars on the upper A-arms are bolted directly to the subframe, no shims. He said the A-arms are slightly shorter than they should be, as he couldn't quite get the caster on the right side adjusted to spec. So, I am looking for offset crossbars that would allow for the proper adjustment of the caster. It isn't a big deal, it just has a little more cater on the right side than on the left.
On the way back from the shop, I stopped at the shop where I had it painted, to show the owner how it turned out. He was really amazed how well it turned out, and had all his crew come out and check it out. They all liked the black top with the silver paint.
There has been a rattle from the parking brake cable lying on top of the exhaust pipe, so after trying a couple of fixes that weren't going to work, I came up with one that will work. I made a couple of P shaped clips out of 1/8" X 3/4" flat stock, and bolted them to one of the reinforcement crossmembers under the body. The first pair were too tall, so I made another pair that worked out a lot better. Now, the cable is held up above the exhaust pipe 1/2"-3/4" and won't rattle against it nor rub the driveshaft. Don't look at the horrible welding job on the X-pipe, I didn't have any stainless TIG rod, so I had to MIG weld it, and it was a disaster. But it doesn't leak.
Today, I jacked it up and repositioned the tailpipes, as the clamps on the pipes and mufflers had let them rotate a little out of proper position. I used my 3/8" Dewalt impact to get the clamps as tight as they would go. Hopefully they'll stay in position now.

Still mulling over the drip rail trim problem...

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Well good news and bad news.
The good news is I finally have all the oil leaks fixed. The last one was the left valve cover gasket leaking. I couldn't see it on the side of the head, but I finally added some UV dye to the oil and drove it a while. When I jacked it up and shined the UV light on it, there was a brilliant yellow trail from the front of the head, running along it below the valve cover, onto the block, down around the oil filter and down the flywheel cover.
I still had an intermittent water leak, and I finally traced it to the block drain on the right side. It appeared to be leaking around the drain valve, so even though it wasn't loose, I snugged it up a turn or so, and that seemed to stop it. So, yesterday I took it for another drive, and when I came back, it was leaking even more. Today, I removed the drain valve and installed a regular pipe plug. I put sealant on it and snugged it up pretty tight, and the leak got even worse. After a closer inspection the leak it coming from a crack in the side of the block, starting just below the freeze plug and extending down into the block drain boss.
That is not what I wanted to see. Foul language ensued.
The original plugs were run in really tight when I bought the block and stripped it down. I installed the drain cocks when I put it back together, but didn't make them as tight as the plugs had been, so I know they didn't cause it to crack. Whether the crack was already there and propagated as the block heated and cooled, I don't know, but there was no leak there until recently or I would have noticed it.
I have welded some engine blocks in the past, but trying to weld a threaded hole that will be stressed by installing a pipe plug is not a good bet to succeed, in my opinion.
So now I have to either find another Chevy block, which are getting to be pretty rare, and taking a chance on another used block, or replacing it with an aftermarket block, which would definitely be a better choice. Either way, If the used block is standard bore, it will have to be bored to .030" oversize to fit my pistons, and one that is already oversize, it's unlikely it will be the precise sized bores for proper piston clearance. Do I want to put that much into a used block?
A new Dart 400 block will also need to be bored, but at least it will be bored to the correct dimensions. The other possibility would be to buy new pistons to fit the 4.125" bores of the 400 block. I'm going to check to see how the machine work cost will compare to the cost of new pistons.
My guess is that it will be close to a wash.
I'm going to talk to the tech at the machine shop to see what he would recommend, and go from there.
If I do go with a Dart block, Lane Automotive is only 50 miles north of me, and they show several in stock.
Also, the cruise control hadn't been working, so I spent a while troubleshooting that the last couple of days. I had everything coming to the control unit but power. Would have sworn that the first time I checked that pin on the connector, that there was power there. But later when I was double or triple checking everything, there was no power on the brown wire. I pulled the fuse, and it didn't look blown, but it didn't look right, so I changed it, and then I had power to the unit. A test drive showed it was working, though surging in speed, so it needs a change to the gain setting, according to the manual.

I'll report back on what I decide to do.

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   / Restarting My '70 Nova Project #677  
Oh man... so sorry. :(

Now when it comes to money spending, if it's gonna be a wash between used and new, it's a no brainer isn't it?
 
   / Restarting My '70 Nova Project #678  
So sorry to read about the cracked block. That certainly is a strange puzzling thing to happen. Hopefully your block can be properly repaired. I felt sick reading that while having my first morning cup of coffee.
 
   / Restarting My '70 Nova Project #679  
That makes me sad.😞. I’d start fresh and use what you can, such as heads, intake, headers and just forget about the rest. I’d hate to bore a brand new block just to reuse your pistons. I know nothing about welding a block, your crack doesn’t look bad but they have a way of growing.
 
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Thanks guys for the concern about the cracked block. I appreciate it.

Talked to the machine shop tech today, and I'm going to go ahead and get a Dart SHP block for the replacement. He thought the same as I did that using another Chevy block could lead to the same or another problem down the road, as all those are at least 30 years old, and who knows what kind of abuse they have been subjected to.
Since the new block will have to be bored, they all come with undersized bores, it will also need cam bearings and freeze plugs too. It will also need to be line bored and decked to make sure everything is true, and also have the lifter bores honed to size. If I buy it from him, he'll knock a little off the price since he'll be doing all the machine work too. He also suggested having the new ARP heads checked for flatness, since I had a leak after I initially installed them. I'm not going to take anything for granted this time around.
So, later this week I'll go in and pay for the block and he'll get it coming, probably next week some time. Until then, I'll get the engine out, again, get it all disassembled, cleaned up and inspected. I may have the shop order a ring set, bearings, seals and gaskets, not sure right now.

Who knows, I might even get it back together before the snow flies.

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