Retirement Planning - Lessons Learned

   / Retirement Planning - Lessons Learned #81  
Is anyone moving money lately? Like from cash to bonds or gold or something else?
I have probably more than I should in past years in bonds and gold. Now I feel kind of happy with accounts because I think the bubble is going to burst like in 99.
Still have way too much cash in my money market. Still think gold has a $3000 peak coming.
Wonder if paying down some debt is in order here.
 
   / Retirement Planning - Lessons Learned #82  
Is anyone moving money lately? Like from cash to bonds or gold or something else?
I have probably more than I should in past years in bonds and gold. Now I feel kind of happy with accounts, but still have way too much in my money market. Still think gold has a $3000 peak coming.

I have under 5% in gold, and know I should have more.
 
   / Retirement Planning - Lessons Learned #83  
Do you teach in TN or GA?

If you teach in TN, you are in "TCRS" which is the TN Consolidated Retirement System. As such, you are then either a "Legacy" or "Hybrid" teacher.... if Legacy you are accruing your pension at roughly 1.5% per year and if you are Hybrid you are accruing at 1%/year. So after 30 years, as a Legacy, you'd have 47.25% of your "AFC" (your highest 5 consecutive years) or if Hybrid, 30% of your AFC.

You can't control either.....but you can INFLUENCE your pension a bit.... you can coach something.... you can drive the bus.....both get you paid and both would serve to RAISE your AFC which in turn would raise your pension.

Realistically the place where YOU can control things is in your 401K.... so that is where you'd have to focus your efforts.


If you are a teacher in Georgia, then I have no idea.

As it happens.... I'm one of about 15 people in the entire State of TN.....that happen to be one of your TCRS reps and my job is to help anyone in the State system.

If you have any questions you are free and invited to reach out to me personally.


I teach in Georgia. But thank you for all of that knowledge. I worked in TN for a few years but I took that money out a while back. Thanks for reaching out and offering to help.
 
   / Retirement Planning - Lessons Learned #84  
To clarify.... you can take withdrawals of your taxable 401K funds after TERMINATING from your job at age 55. (can't do this if the funds are Roth contributions, those are stuck until age 59 1/2 along with the five year hold)

So, if you quit your job and have attained the age 55 and leave your 401K in place, you can withdrawal any amount of the taxable portion and simply pay any applicable tax.....there is no 10% penalty. Now, if you move those funds from a 401K into an IRA that your college buddy can manage for you.....you've just screwed yourself because the rules of the IRA are age 59 1/2....whereas the rules on the 401K are age 55.

What if you continue to work and are age (anything over 59 1/2)?.you can do an "in service withdrawal" and pull some funds out for whatever reason even though you are still employed and putting funds into it. Since you are of retirement age, the 10% penalty is gone.

So you have a window from age 55 to 59 1/2 that "if your plan" is to roll from your 401K into an IRA.....you might want to reconsider that move until you hit age 59 1/2 OR, only move a portion.....leaving behind in the 401K an amount that you feel would hold you over to age 59 1/2....

THEN AGAIN.....you want to make sure that your 401K allows partial distributions after you separate from service. Some 401K's do NOT which means if you're age (enter any age) and you want to simply take $1,000 out of your $900,000 401K.... you can't. You have to take it all or none. This is your 401K's polite way of saying "you've terminated.....please move your account somewhere else"

Don't wait until needing that money is critical before you discover your 401K doesn't allow partial distributions.

I guess what I called penalty is the higher tax I'd pay retiring before 59-1/2, if I understand you correctly.
I was not aware once I retire I'd have to move my retirement funds. Our company 401K is with Fidelity and I suspect I can stay with them but may just need to move into a different account. I plan to sit down with a financial/retirement specialist in a couple years to learn what I need to learn and start making preparations.
Fidelity has offered many different webinars on retirement and other subjects. I have been able to attend a couple but not any have discussed the moving of funds or minimum withdrawls, etc.

As is often the case, sometimes you don't know what you don't know. I appreciate everyone's contributions to this thread.

Our plan is once I can retire, is to move to a more retirement friendly state, OK, MO, AR, TN, KY but still keeps us somewhat centered around family in OK and MO and maybe TX if my Son stays here after college. the rest of my Family is in NC and FL.

We hope to homestead and grow as much of our own food as we can, I want to hunt for everything I can (I have a lot to learn there), we already have 4 chickens, we have even considered bee keeping. Forgot to mention a few cows, I grew up raising beef cattle and miss being around some.

I also hope to keep Jeeping and ATVing as much as I can, many of our friends older than us still jeep. We may even keep boating in the summer although I may see if my son will buy the boat from me if he wants, if not, I'll sell it, just don't use it as much as we did the first 20 years.
So we will have plenty to keep us busy and hopefully healthy.
 
   / Retirement Planning - Lessons Learned #85  
I like Dave Ramsey's thought on gold investing...

"If your investments are advertised right after a Snuggie ad, you are probably not in a good category of investments.

If Snuggie is on, and then right after that, catheters and then gold coins, something is wrong. '


From here:
Down on gold - Ask Dave | DaveRamsey.com
 
   / Retirement Planning - Lessons Learned #86  
That's what my dad did for years. He once told me his will was simple, just divide everything among us 4 kids. And you are the Executor. Uh oh. :shocked:.

It took me 20 years to convince him to be more specific and keep me out of what would have been a very hot seat. Even then there were some rough spots with a couple of family members who thought they were "entitled" to certain items. A tractor being one.

That's essentially what my mother's will states (father's been gone almost 20 yr. now)...divide everything 4 ways (well, probably 3 now given that my brother is no longer with us), if anyone wants anything specific they have to pay 3/4's of the value to the estate. I don't know who the executor is, if it's me she never said anything. :eek:

That doesn't apply until you turn 70 1/2 though, which is about when I hope to start. For the first 5 years I won't be able to completely stop working, but do hope to give up showing up for work 5 days out of the week.
I always wonder about percent of income vs pre retirement... if living expenses don't include rent or mortgage, it seems like that would be a big difference.

I think the age is 72 now, changed a couple years ago. I found that living expenses don't really go down all that much after you retire. You're not buying as many clothes, and commuting expenses go away (assuming you don't have a company vehicle like I did), but that's about it. Other things like heating costs, electric bill, etc. could likely go up since you're home all day.

Taxes/maintenance/insurance/increased utilities will take the place of a mortgage very quickly.
I pay those now, why will they be that much more when my mortgage is paid off?

I think what he meant was that none of those will be going down as time passes, and in all likelihood will be going up. Obviously, paying off a mortgage is one less cash drain each month.
 
   / Retirement Planning - Lessons Learned #87  
I did not adequately anticipate the rapid rise in health insurance. If you retire before reaching Medicare age and have to purchase your own health insurance, be aware of this high (and rapidly rising) cost. At age 62, I now pay $812/month (yea, it sucks big time) for a high deductible (~$7700) plan. Hoping it doesn't go over $1000/month before I get to 65, but I suspect that is just a dream. I could go with the ACA (Obama Care) but prefer not to.

Yeah, health insurance is hideously expensive. I retired at 62 and just did without until I was eligible for Medicare (and paid the &%$# Obamacare penalty). Was in good health and the cheapest plan available was over $700/Mo. with high deductables and copays. Not quite sure how that qualifies as "affordable".
 
   / Retirement Planning - Lessons Learned #88  
I like Dave Ramsey's thought on gold investing...

"If your investments are advertised right after a Snuggie ad, you are probably not in a good category of investments.

If Snuggie is on, and then right after that, catheters and then gold coins, something is wrong. '


From here:
Down on gold - Ask Dave | DaveRamsey.com

Good point !!!
 
   / Retirement Planning - Lessons Learned #89  
Yeah, health insurance is hideously expensive. I retired at 62 and just did without until I was eligible for Medicare (and paid the &%$# Obamacare penalty). Was in good health and the cheapest plan available was over $700/Mo. with high deductables and copays. Not quite sure how that qualifies as "affordable".

It's all a matter of perspective. The health industry now amounts to between 15% and 20% of our economy. As medical technology advances I would anticipate it to become a bigger portion. Think about it - it's great to have big screen TVs, new cars and hot tubs, but at the end of the day none of that is very important compared with good health. If you aren't paying 20% of your income, year in and out, for insurance and health care, you are just fooling yourself. It's being paid somehow.

I'm on Medicare but my wife isn't. We had some health issues last year, but not catastrophic. I just put the numbers together for taxes and we spent $25,000 last year on insurance and healthcare. Something to expect after you retire.
 
   / Retirement Planning - Lessons Learned #90  
It's all a matter of perspective. The health industry now amounts to between 15% and 20% of our economy. As medical technology advances I would anticipate it to become a bigger portion. Think about it - it's great to have big screen TVs, new cars and hot tubs, but at the end of the day none of that is very important compared with good health. If you aren't paying 20% of your income, year in and out, for insurance and health care, you are just fooling yourself. It's being paid somehow.

I'm on Medicare but my wife isn't. We had some health issues last year, but not catastrophic. I just put the numbers together for taxes and we spent $25,000 last year on insurance and healthcare. Something to expect after you retire.

That $25,000 number certainly does not apply to most over 65, and/or on Medicare!
I am 80, and figure I spend under $5,000 per year, on a medicare supplement, deductibles, and drugs.
My drugs come through the VA, with an $8 co-pay per prescription per month.
I use Medicare for most everything, with the VA as a backup.
 

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