Retirement Planning - Lessons Learned

   / Retirement Planning - Lessons Learned #541  
Never have had a penny in stocks or an IRA. Being a builder, I have stuck to what I know; building. I buy a house, restore it to better than new and sell it. Buy a more expensive house, ditto... and sell it. My current project will net me mid six figures profit. When I am done and ready to retire, I will keep my last house (already under contract), be debt free and big $$$ in the bank. Not everyone needs a financial advisor... Just skin in the game.
Years ago I was telling a good contractor friend about mutual funds. He listened then invested some money he had saved. A month later he showed me his statement..."I made $600 and didn't even have to drive a nail" he said. But it's long term, and up and down I told him. Eventually you'll do ok.
 
   / Retirement Planning - Lessons Learned #542  
With the decline of Defined Benefits retirement plans and the transient nature of jobs today, one must take any opportunities to increase personal wealth. I never felt comfortable dabbling in the stock market but I wish I had. I did it the hard way and worked that 30+ years to earn that pension.
I had a job with a pension. I didn't want to depend on any one company remaining solvent to ensure my retirement. I wish I had put money in stocks earlier, too. I worked 30+ years, but not for the same company. ;)
 
   / Retirement Planning - Lessons Learned #543  
Years ago I was telling a good contractor friend about mutual funds. He listened then invested some money he had saved. A month later he showed me his statement..."I made $600 and didn't even have to drive a nail" he said. But it's long term, and up and down I told him. Eventually you'll do ok.

I'm waiting to get to that point where I realized that my investments are regularly making more than I do.
 
   / Retirement Planning - Lessons Learned #544  
You'd be astonished to learn what many skilled blue collar workers work for in the Southeast.
I'm starting to realize why an extra $300/week in unemployment benefits was such a big deal in some areas. Employers think it's horrible that they can't lock somebody in at slave wages. At 40 hours a week, that's $7.50/hour, an absurdly low wage. Federal minimum wage is only $7.25, and some states are worse than that.

They have suckered a lot of people into being poor and proud of it, while the bosses laugh all the way to the bank. Now they're weeping great crocodile tears because nobody will work for them.
 
   / Retirement Planning - Lessons Learned #546  
I'm waiting to get to that point where I realized that my investments are regularly making more than I do.
Right after being debt free, that was our next goal.
After that, the next goal is finding affordable health insurance after retirement.
 
   / Retirement Planning - Lessons Learned #547  
15 an hour can’t compete with CA combined benefits...

I know several that probably will never go back... not if they can help it as they learned to make do with less and like it.
 
   / Retirement Planning - Lessons Learned #548  
Right after being debt free, that was our next goal.
After that, the next goal is finding affordable health insurance after retirement.

That's a good plan!

After age of 65 you qualify for Medicare and can shop around for supplementary ins. available in your state.

That should not be too hard to find?
 
   / Retirement Planning - Lessons Learned #549  
Be frugal during those working years and if you live long enough, you can afford those toys.

Never Co-Sign for anyone and never loan money you expect to be repaid.

Stop buying crap on credit. Save for large purchases and refrain from impulse purchases.

Be kind, help others and support causes you are passionate about.
Why stop buying on credit? I think this is horrible advice.

the stock market has averaged 10% returns for the last 140 years.

why would I pay cash for a tractor, when the bank is willing to give me a loan for say 6%. By taking out a loan and making monthly payments, my say 40K is still invested and making money, and all I have to do is make a monthly payment.

i Will only pay cash if the interest on a loan is over 10%, which is never.
 
   / Retirement Planning - Lessons Learned #551  
Why stop buying on credit? I think this is horrible advice.

the stock market has averaged 10% returns for the last 140 years.

why would I pay cash for a tractor, when the bank is willing to give me a loan for say 6%. By taking out a loan and making monthly payments, my say 40K is still invested and making money, and all I have to do is make a monthly payment.

i Will only pay cash if the interest on a loan is over 10%, which is never.

Buying on credit means you don't own it, the financier does and they will take it away if you miss few payments for some unforeseen reason.

It is good advice for many people, at least for those who live from paycheck to paycheck and they should buy only what they can pay 100% upfront.
 
   / Retirement Planning - Lessons Learned #552  
Buying on credit means you don't own it, the financier does and they will take it away if you miss few payments for unforeseen reason.

It is good advice for most people since so many live from paycheck to paycheck.
My dad was in his mid 70's when I convinced him to buy a brand new car (his first "new" car was the plastic pointiac he was driving in and was getting tired of it). I asked him what he was willing to pay. He told me 13k, no more LMAO I then asked him what he could afford per a monthly payment. He told me he could buy whatever he wanted.

I convinced him to buy a new car, he's not getting any younger, and buy whatever the frick he wan't to buy. He made his payments (always paid it off), and now that he's around 90 and he's on his 3rd brand new car (and paid it off), he has absolutely no regrets.

IF (and a big if) you don't have to live payment to payment, I see no reason why not to use someone elses money as long as you know you can afford it.
 
   / Retirement Planning - Lessons Learned #553  
i Will only pay cash if the interest on a loan is over 10%, which is never.
Never say never
My second house was bought in 1984 when interest rates were over 12% for my adjustable rate loan.
30-Year Fixed-Rate Mortgages Since 1971 - Freddie Mac
It had a "cap" of 14 or 15% MAX. When I asked the loan officer what was the bottom "cap" they laughed at me.
I rode that loan down to about 6%.
I had a bunch of treasury bills at 14%. Used to stop downtown at the treasury building for lunch and buy them.
IF (and a big if) you don't have to live payment to payment, I see no reason why not to use someone elses money as long as you know you can afford it.
Definitely.
Borrow on an auto loan at 1%, make better money elsewhere.
 
   / Retirement Planning - Lessons Learned #554  
Definitely.
Borrow on an auto loan at 1%, make better money elsewhere.
Better yet, just buy what you want to buy because you aren't taking it with you when you're dead, so enjoy it while your alive.

Don't get me wrong, you don't want to saddle your kids with your own financial burdens, but if you know you have money in the bank and can pay for it outright, why should you leave it to your kids to just piss away?

YOU worked hard to be debt free and enjoy things later. Enjoy them.

I told my dad the exact same thing when I convinced him to buy a new car for himself for the first time in a long time when he came to visit me.

Sidenote, my dad thinks he's paying a installment plan on his new sit in bath tub because he saw in the paper monthly installments available (this after I signed contract AFTER 6 quotes). Guess I trained him well as he's gotten older LOL We made out the check ourselves to pay for the work in full, and he's paying me and he thinks he's paying the bank on a finance plan. Does this make me a bad son? He loves the tub, so it's all good. least I could do for him.
 
   / Retirement Planning - Lessons Learned #556  
My financial advisors tell me my biggest problem in retirement will be not being able to spend fast enough given my German and Scottish heritage. They say I am stubborn and cheap, but tell them I am not after I ask them how much I am paying them.
 
   / Retirement Planning - Lessons Learned #557  
I am happy for the poor who don't get their minuscule wealth stolen by rich people.
Even the poor are free to look for other employment or to go into business for themselves. Many of us started with nothing and have never asked for assistance.
 
   / Retirement Planning - Lessons Learned #558  
Even the poor are free to look for other employment or to go into business for themselves. Many of us started with nothing and have never asked for assistance.
That's admirable. I got a free high school education and heavily subsidized college education courtesy of the taxpayer. It helped a lot. Washington's minimum wage is $13.69, but I doubt many people are looking to work for that. Around here, Taco Bell starts employees at $14.20. Maybe it's different in the South. Do Walmart and grocery stores only charge 50% of PNW prices there?

The $300 unemployment boost expires in September, and 26 states have already cancelled it without seeing an uptick in hiring. It looks like the "nobody wants to work" rant was just BS. People aren't willing to sit still and be screwed any more. The handwriting on the wall is, if you have employees you better keep them happy. Half of them would like to work elsewhere, and 44% already have one foot out the door.

 
   / Retirement Planning - Lessons Learned #559  
Even the poor are free to look for other employment or to go into business for themselves. Many of us started with nothing and have never asked for assistance.
In my experience... many who are poor, perhaps even the majority, have put themselves there through poor choices, drugs, alcohol, quitting school, or just old fashioned, I ain't going to work today. I have seen thousands like this.
 
   / Retirement Planning - Lessons Learned #560  
Why stop buying on credit? I think this is horrible advice.

the stock market has averaged 10% returns for the last 140 years.

why would I pay cash for a tractor, when the bank is willing to give me a loan for say 6%. By taking out a loan and making monthly payments, my say 40K is still invested and making money, and all I have to do is make a monthly payment.

i Will only pay cash if the interest on a loan is over 10%, which is never.
Reason being...always been a scaredychicken about taking risks with money. Never had disposable income to gamble with...
 

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