Right to work question

[ArchieBunker]

Some states are termed "right to work" what exactly does this term imply ??? Is it a way to get around paying minimum wage ???

 

[MikePA]

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[Boomerang1]

I understand that it means they can hire and fire at will with no reason.

 

[ArchieBunker]

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[thcri]

No it does not mean you can get around minimum wage. Basically a state the has right to work means an employer can let a person go without a reason. Minnesota is a right to work state but that still does not keep me out of the courts when I let an employee go.

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[Bob_Skurka]

There are a couple of parts of right to work.

You can hire and fire at will. But if you fire, you still have to justify it if the employee tries to collect unemployment. So you can fire someone but you are still on the hook for unemployment compensation if the employee was terminated and it cannot be proved that he didn't violate work rules, etc.

I believe it also prevents labor unions from requiring workers to join the union to work for an empoyer. Consequently an employer can have both union and non-union workers side by side doing the same jobs. It becomes the employees choice as to if he want to be in the union.

I believe that if an employee chooses to join the union, it also gives him the right to only pay the dues that are 'directly related' to collective bargaining. Consequently if the employee does not believe in the political adjenda of the union he is a member of, he does not have to pay the portion of the dues that support political activity (that part may actually be a federal law that applies to all states, but I know it applies to 'right to work' states.

 

[Cityboyfarmer]

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This is the crux of right to work and the reason unions fight against it so hard. Unions hate it because they are bound by law to represent "bargaining unit" employees whether they are dues paying members or not.

Right to work goes hand-in-hand with the employment-at-will doctrine in which the employee and employer relationship is "at will" and either may terminate employment with the other at any time for any reason. As has been previously stated, this doctrine will not prevent wrongful termination lawsuits against the employer.

 

[BillG_in_TX]

What does this have to do with tractors? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

 

[VA_Joe]

The closed shop rule was something I hated when I was a student in New York. The closed shop rule essentially says that everyone had to be a member of the union to work. Although unions can make sense in some occupations, it made no sense at the place that I worked - which was a department store that hired mostly short term workers (i.e. high school and college students) and paid minimum wage with a 10 cent "union negotiated " increase after a few months on the job. What really got me was this "increase" was never enough to pay the union dues in the first place. In effect - our membership in the union was causing us to make less than minimum (workers of the world unite - thank you AFLCIO).

In order to get any benefits - one had to be on the job for a minimum of six months and in reality greater than a year to get the "real" benefits (which weren't much for the dues paid). However - because of turnover - very few people ever made it to the one year mark. Anyone on the job more than a year usually became a department manager and were therefore exempt from forced union membership.

Anyways - I'm not bitter - although I moved to VA and never joined a union since. The again - maybe I am.

Joe

 

[California]

Is there a tractor in here somewhere? Are you a troll?