Ballast Rim Guard and punctures

[joea99]

If using Rim Guard, can tire be plugged and have it hold? Currently the Ag tires on a machine I bought used are plugged. Maybe a newbie mistake, but I never thought to check, or ask. Anyway, after 2 years of use, still holding.

But, am considering loading tires. Local shop only does calcium with inner tubes. So looking at Rim Guard. Can a tire be safely plugged when filled with Rim Guard?

 

[jeff9366]

Beet Juice is a food product. After one or two months in the heat Rim Guard is nasty for any tire shop to deal with and you pay for tire service accordingly. You may be willing to pay for Rim Guard's density but consider carefully before proceeding.

I recommend water and alcohol for loading tires.

T-B-N ARCHIVE: https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/owning-operating/179606-rimguard-vs-methanol.html




Filling rear tires is a project you can do yourself. Less effort to fill rear tires in your driveway than trailer tractor or deliver wheels/tires to a tire shop.

U-Tube Videos: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Filling+loading+tractor+tires

 

[Hay Dude]

If using Rim Guard, can tire be plugged and have it hold? Currently the Ag tires on a machine I bought used are plugged. Maybe a newbie mistake, but I never thought to check, or ask. Anyway, after 2 years of use, still holding.

But, am considering loading tires. Local shop only does calcium with inner tubes. So looking at Rim Guard. Can a tire be safely plugged when filled with Rim Guard?

I would think you would roll the hole to 12 o’clock position to plug it.
Tried Rim Guard in 2 different machines and it’s a mess. I strongly recommend wheel weights.

 

[RickB]

Another vote against Rimguard. Nasty, smelly stuff after a while. I am not aware of any concerns plugging tires containing liquid ballast. As suggested, rotate the tire so the leak is above the ballast. Allow sufficient cure time before moving.

Plugging tubed tires does not work often and tubing tires that have been plugged requires that the plugs be cut/ground off smooth with the tire inner surface. Tubing plugged tires generally is not a good idea.

 

[joea99]

Beet Juice is a food product. After one or two months in the heat Rim Guard is nasty for any tire shop to deal with and you pay for tire service accordingly. You may be willing to pay for Rim Guard's density but consider carefully before proceeding.

I recommend water and alcohol for loading tires.

T-B-N ARCHIVE: https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/owning-operating/179606-rimguard-vs-methanol.html




Filling rear tires is a project you can do yourself. Less effort to fill rear tires in your driveway than trailer tractor or deliver wheels/tires to a tire shop.

U-Tube Videos: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Filling+loading+tractor+tires

Interesting links. A lot simpler DIY than I thought.

 

[boomer1025]

One good thing about rim guard, it wash's right off with water and a little soap. The smell is the only down side besides being sticky.

 

[oosik]

I've had Rim Guard in my 2009 Kubota M6040 tires for eleven + years. No problems. Perhaps, around here, they put something in with the RG. I got a short blast a year ago - checking tire pressure. It was sweet, sticky but no way was it nasty. It was still plain 'ol beet juice.

 

[grsthegreat]

I replaced the outer valve on my rear rimgard filled tire. Some leaked out and it wasnt very smelly at all. The stuff has been in there for 10 trouble free years before a branch damaged the valve.

 

[Mat4644]

Did it taste like beets?:licking::licking:

 

[Hay Dude]

If you have a big leak and it’s a hot day, it’ll kill any grass in the area. I don’t care how safe the label says it is, liquid in a black tire on a hot day is going to burn grass.
When I had a big leak, it killed the grass and smelled like skunk.
I guess everyone has different results.

 

[grsthegreat]

If you have a big leak and it’s a hot day, it’ll kill any grass in the area. I don’t care how safe the label says it is, liquid in a black tire on a hot day is going to burn grass.
When I had a big leak, it killed the grass and smelled like skunk.
I guess everyone has different results.

well when i had calcium chloride filled rears on my jd870. One tire blew and the junk ruined 4 sheets of 4’x8’ 16 gage steel and 1 sheet of 1/4” steel. In 1 day they rusted like no ones business. The inside wall of the shed also rusted. Also did a number on the rim itself. Ill stick to rimgard

 

[Hay Dude]

well when i had calcium chloride filled rears on my jd870. One tire blew and the junk ruined 4 sheets of 4’x8’ 16 gage steel and 1 sheet of 1/4” steel. In 1 day they rusted like no ones business. The inside wall of the shed also rusted. Also did a number on the rim itself. Ill stick to rimgard

For the record, I don’t like any liquid ballast, for the reasons you gave on calcium and the reasons I gave on rim guard.

 

[RickB]

well when i had calcium chloride filled rears on my jd870. One tire blew and the junk ruined 4 sheets of 4遅8 16 gage steel and 1 sheet of 1/4 steel. In 1 day they rusted like no ones business. The inside wall of the shed also rusted. Also did a number on the rim itself. Ill stick to rimgard

This is not an A or B decision. There are many options for liquid ballast, and cast iron is an option.

Nobody is suggesting you dump your Rimguard.

 

[grsthegreat]

I understand that. Im just saying that i personally like rimgard. Others do not, im fine with that also.

 

[oosik]

I have 1550# of liquid ballast - Rim Guard. I know of no other way of getting that much ballast - other than liquid. Not that I'm about to change what I have anyhow.

You don't like liquid ballast or Rim Guard - simple answer - don't use it.

 

[grsthegreat]

I have 1550# of liquid ballast - Rim Guard. I know of no other way of getting that much ballast - other than liquid. Not that I'm about to change what I have anyhow.

You don't like liquid ballast or Rim Guard - simple answer - don't use it.

ya know.... i have no idea how much weight the rim gard added... never remember anyone told me. Oh well

 

[LouNY]

If any adds liquid fill to their tires they just need to be sure that it will not freeze at the coldest ambient temperature for their location,
calcium and water is less expensive then the other commercial products, yes it will corrode any metal it contacts.
However in a tubed tire it will take many many years to do so.
Myself I prefer cast iron, to each his own.

 

[Mat4644]

Deere only recommends 40% fill in rears now.

 

[oosik]

grsthegreat - if you have the standard - 13.6 x 24 tires. 38 gallons per tire - roughly 417# per tire.

 

[buickanddeere]

In an ideal world the tires will be dry tubeless radials . With external cast weight bolted on for ballast . Contrary to what most folks think . There is lots of room for cast ballast on the inside and outside of the tire .