Road trip to Mississippi - Katrina

   / Road trip to Mississippi - Katrina #11  
Unforetunately, the Alabama coast doesn't have the news appeal that the D&D on the Ms Gulf and N.O. have. Has anyone seen anything from LA south of N.O.? Easier to get the big story there.

AS for the storm surge, are you reasonably sure that there was a 20' storm surge? What the people from the office saw when they ventured down there last week was an 10-13 foot surge. They may not have gotten into the right areas. Will relay what you got pulling the boats back into the water to the people who do the surveying here in the office.

Steve
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   / Road trip to Mississippi - Katrina #12  
Whiskey,

I think Mccarty is right - - there are people here that would accept help in getting debris from their property to the road to be picked up. If nothing else, I bet I can find people withing a half mile of here that could find something for you & your equipment to keep you busy. However, I've got to say that what is needed as much as anything else is HEAVY equipment, maybe even track hoes. These 50 year old trees have pretty big root balls. Not even sure my BX-22 will even make a dent - - haven't got that far yet. I'm still trying to get the upper part of the trees out to the ditch.

Cheers,

Jack
 
   / Road trip to Mississippi - Katrina #13  
I could be wrong but look at this picture. I know it had to be pretty high. I do not know what the tide was doing that day but there was deffinately a big surge. There were people launching boats in the parking lot of the local grocery store which is a good ways from the bayou.

But i did not see the height of the surge but for things to be where they were it had to be high.
 

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   / Road trip to Mississippi - Katrina #14  
O.K. I got some measurements of the storm surge. It was approximately 15.5' in Bayou La Batre. We measured the water mark on the wall of an office of a shipyard in the Bayou. They know the elev of the slab and added water line and got 15.5'. Sorry for the confussion.
 
   / Road trip to Mississippi - Katrina #15  
A family that evacuated from Pearlington & staying with a neighbor estimated that he had close to 18' at his place. He lost everything. Also, a friend who lived in Oak Harbor, Slidell, estimated his at 15'.

Glad I'm 250' above sea level.

Jack
 
   / Road trip to Mississippi - Katrina #16  
Will relay the info on to the powers that be here. Can you relay the buidling location that had the high water mark you measured? We try to get the most accurate records we can. We will get pounded for the info by the insurance agencies, press and people trying to persuade the ins companies to see things differently.

One thing to remember, though the storm surge can bring the average water level up, add the wave action on top of that and things can get moved inland farther than one would expect.

Steve
 
   / Road trip to Mississippi - Katrina #18  
Whiskey,

When I was working the chainsaw and tractor this weekend it hit me that I did not mention something. When I was down east for Floyd the first time I saw which towns needed help more than others as well as who had some organization in place. I called up the town we went back to help and after a few phone calls I made contact with a town official who helped schedule our trip and work.

You should be able to do the same.

When I went down to clean up I did not have a tractor. We just had strong back and weak minds. You need a weak nose as well. Take some Vicks. If the smell is bad rub the Vicks UNDER your nose to help kill the smell. I forgot to do this in Floyd. PHEW is stunk.....

You will need the tractor if you are in a flooded out area. Fridges and freezers are heavy. Might want to take dolleys as well.

Later,
Dan
 
   / Road trip to Mississippi - Katrina #19  
Got this off the news wire from a local TV station website. It discusses what the National Guard is finding when they do the house to house: large stashes of stolen goods.



NEW ORLEANS -- It was like a modern-day treasure map -- a computerized diagram of neighborhoods with codes marking the addresses where National Guard soldiers came upon caches of goods taken by looters in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

"There's probably still loot out there" hidden in various homes, Capt. Gregg McGowan said from his Oklahoma National Guard unit's makeshift headquarters.

"We're not going house-to-house looking for it, but if we find it, we secure it so police can check it."

In the chaos that followed Katrina's flooding, looters targeted everything from grocery stores to gun shops to trendy women's clothing boutiques. Now that the city is mostly empty of civilians, military patrols making house-to-house checks for remaining residents or the dead are finding some of the hiding places for the stolen goods.

New Orleans District Attorney Eddie Jordan said he intends to prosecute as many looters as he can. However, few arrests have been made thus far because authorities have been primarily concerned with reaching stranded residents, Jordan said.

The guardsmen recently thought they had caught a looter coming back into town to load his stash onto a moving truck. Inside his home, the soldiers found automobile parts stacked 8 feet high, a new off-road motorcycle and various electronics, including a video game system with a pawn shop ticket still attached.

But the man told the soldiers he had no idea where the goods came from and that someone else must have broken into his home and stashed them there after he evacuated. Skeptical, the soldiers detained him until police arrived, filled out a report and seized the goods. They took the man's name and address, but did not arrest him.

"You could be technical and say, 'I'm going to book him with possession of stolen property,' but then you have to find out who the owner is, find out whether that person had permission take that property," New Orleans Police Capt. Marlon Defillo said.

"So what we're generally doing is seizing the goods as found property and writing a report."

That way, he explained, authorities can return the goods if they figure out where they came from - rather than holding them as evidence pending the resolution of often drawn-out criminal cases.

In other homes, McGowan's unit found automatic teller machines that had been broken open and emptied of cash and bags of ammunition still packaged in 500-round bundles, not the individual boxes of 20 rounds usually sold over the counter.

A smashed-open video poker machine, likely taken from a bar, was left lying on the sidewalk of an Uptown residential street.

In a church-run assisted living home close to a heavily looted Wal-Mart in the lower Garden District, a team of guardsmen found new bicycles, stereos and clothing. Someone associated with the church, who refused to give his name, said at least seven rooms in the four-story residence were filled with goods believed to be stolen.

New Orleans police are storing seized loot in a makeshift warehouse near the city's train station, Defillo said. He declined to provide details on how many goods had been found, how many businesses or homes had been looted, or if authorities had any long-term plan to track down some of the culprits.

"We haven't even had time to deal with that yet," he said.
 
   / Road trip to Mississippi - Katrina #20  
Whiskey,

I did exactly what you mentioned. I was there from Aug. 15 - 21st. Took my tractor and chainsaw to Bay St. Louis, MS. I worked with a couple of crews, removing trees off houses, moving dead cars out of the way, pulling stumps. hauling junk/trash, & refrigerators.

I was camping out the whole time. Security was not an issue since my truck was parked 20' from the Natl Guard station, amd my tractor was parked by my tent. Everyone was very grateful for all the help. Having a tractor improves a chainsaw crew's efficiency 4X. We were primarily focussing on helping out those who had a real "need". By that I mean folks that didn't have money or needed what little they had to rebuild their house, since most didn't have insurance.

I could write forever on the experience and the people there. It was the best vacation I've had in a long time. Worked sun up to sundown and it was great, despite the heat, humidity, lack of conveniences.

If you are still interested in helping out, give Horace Clemmons a call who is probably still working in the area. 256.655.8792. Tell him Oscar sent you.

By the way, having a compact tractor or skid steer with a grapple is the most efficient setup for the work that is still left.
 

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