SteveCornell
Silver Member
I hope the mods don't mind the double posting going on with this subject in 2 different sections but I want to share this experience and results with everyone so hopefully we can all learn and find a solution to prevent this from happening to someone else.
KTurner, the CO2 would simply replace the "flammable" air mixture (oxygen rich) with an inert (non flammable) air and the engine would die because without the proper oxygen rich mixture combustion could not occur, now just pointing a CO2 fire extinguisher at the tractor would not do it, the CO2 would need to directed into the air intake to choke off the oxygen, but if you can't get to the intake???
I'm up and on my 2nd cup of coffee, I'll be going out in a bit and checking the tractor out, thanks for everyones suggestions and comments.
The key was turned off as soon as the tractor hit the ground, I was too busy trying to get away from it for the 3 seconds it was rolling over to analyze everything that should be done to stop the engine, the tractor should have died as soon as my *** left the seat but it did not, it immediately started running on it's own.
I was not wearing my seat belt, I usually do in steep situations but in this particular case it probably allowed my to get out of the way of the tractor, if the tractor had come on over, I would have been better off to be buckled in and ride it out but in this "particular case" not having it on probably prevented any injury, will I have it on the next time I operate the tractor?, YES, even on flat ground as I feel that the seat belt more times than not will prevent injuries, just not in this case.
I'm not an inexperienced operator, I've operated heavy machinery all my life and have been in many bad situations and believe me I was doing my best to get to the air intake as I knew that this would kill the engine if everything else failed but it was not possible with the position of the tractor, rags, sock, underwear, or a fire extinguisher don't work if you can't get to the air intake, here is some info on the emergency air shut off 4261 - Intake Air Shutoff Valves these can be operated by a switch, rpms, manual pull cable, air, etc, the ones I have used in the past are spring loaded and the switch \ cable releases the latch and allows the kill to close, you then have to manually reset the kill (re-cock) I'm looking for sources as I'm convinced that every diesel engine should be equipped with one.
Again thanks for everyones concerns and suggestions, I'll be reporting back in a couple hours.
Thanks!
Steve
KTurner, the CO2 would simply replace the "flammable" air mixture (oxygen rich) with an inert (non flammable) air and the engine would die because without the proper oxygen rich mixture combustion could not occur, now just pointing a CO2 fire extinguisher at the tractor would not do it, the CO2 would need to directed into the air intake to choke off the oxygen, but if you can't get to the intake???
I'm up and on my 2nd cup of coffee, I'll be going out in a bit and checking the tractor out, thanks for everyones suggestions and comments.
The key was turned off as soon as the tractor hit the ground, I was too busy trying to get away from it for the 3 seconds it was rolling over to analyze everything that should be done to stop the engine, the tractor should have died as soon as my *** left the seat but it did not, it immediately started running on it's own.
I was not wearing my seat belt, I usually do in steep situations but in this particular case it probably allowed my to get out of the way of the tractor, if the tractor had come on over, I would have been better off to be buckled in and ride it out but in this "particular case" not having it on probably prevented any injury, will I have it on the next time I operate the tractor?, YES, even on flat ground as I feel that the seat belt more times than not will prevent injuries, just not in this case.
I'm not an inexperienced operator, I've operated heavy machinery all my life and have been in many bad situations and believe me I was doing my best to get to the air intake as I knew that this would kill the engine if everything else failed but it was not possible with the position of the tractor, rags, sock, underwear, or a fire extinguisher don't work if you can't get to the air intake, here is some info on the emergency air shut off 4261 - Intake Air Shutoff Valves these can be operated by a switch, rpms, manual pull cable, air, etc, the ones I have used in the past are spring loaded and the switch \ cable releases the latch and allows the kill to close, you then have to manually reset the kill (re-cock) I'm looking for sources as I'm convinced that every diesel engine should be equipped with one.
Again thanks for everyones concerns and suggestions, I'll be reporting back in a couple hours.
Thanks!
Steve