Rope cinch

[WranglerX]

You first

Unless you test it you will always be "Chicken Little"

 

[1930]

Unless you test it you will always be "Chicken Little"

Might be so
I climbed the roof today using hand over method, did it 3 times, sat for a few at the peak, tried it with the vest on once using the clincher that comes as part of the kit and it didn’t work for me as in I was very uncomfortable
I ordered these items this morning, I’ve since learned there are manual and automatic tension release mechanisms.
The mechanism with the original kit I purchased first mentioned in this thread is automatic, this belt and tensioners I show here are manual positive locking at all times until I do the release, I don’t plan to release anything unless I’m on my ass on the cushion.
I will feel much more comfortable using this belt in the front and these manual tensioners.
I’m working on getting a couple of quotes in the next few days, the house is 1800 sq ft and the garage is the same.
I’ve priced materials ( 26 gauge ) at roughly 10,000
Labor has been quoted at 15-18000 dollars
Every contractor so far has said 1day job for a crew of 3-4 men.
Every contractor has shown up in a 2023 4 wd truck.
Insane what they are getting away with.
I’m lucky to get 5000 to paint a vehicle which takes literally weeks of prep work.
Evidently I need to trade trades.
I’m gonna give it my best to do this myself.
Wish me luck

 

[1930]

I’m also building an 8 ft scaffold that will attach to the forks on my tractor, it will allow me to do the soffit installation which has been quoted at 7000
( hardi board materials already on site for roughly 600 dollars )
I will also be able to do my gable ends on the garage ( do not have any quotes on that )
It will be tucked under the rafters tight in whatever area I’m working on up on the roof.
It will be a 4x8 platform
Might take me a great deal of time to do all of this but at least I won’t be a slave to the system

 

[5030]

The device supplied with anborists flip line works, not as $$ as a grigri.

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I used the unit listed above recently.

Not sure I'd trust my butt to anything made in China and Vevor is 100% Chinese made, not that I climb trees anymore. I'm way too old for that stuff. I just call one of my arborist customers I sharpen their chipper knives and grind their saw chains for and work on their equipment for and have them come over with a Hi Ranger and do what I need done and trade tit for tat. far as I know the ones without bucket trucks use ascenders and quality German made synthetic rope. Besides, as old as I am, I'm scared of heights...lol

 

[2manyrocks]

If you are doing this job by yourself and will have to go up/down a lot to screw down the metal, you could build one of those wooden ladders that goes past the peak and has another section that rides on the other side.

You'd also want some way of holding the metal in place until you get screws in it. Maybe something you could temporarily fasten to the facia that will keep it from sliding but also give you the uniform overhang edge you want to end up with.

edit: Our roof has osb sheating. When we re-roofed with metal, the roofer installed 1x4 pine lath because the pine will hold screws better than osb. I don't know what you used to sheat your roof, but if you used OSB, you may want to install pine lath to hold your screws better and to also give you something else to keep from sliding off the roof as you work.

 

[olenjohn]

What do climbers use for a safety cinch on their ropes that only allow one way of freedom unless they use some sort of positive release?
I bought the guardian fall protection kit and am not at all satisfied with the mechanism they use because it doesn’t actually lock the rope in place until there is tension on the rope that would happen during a fall.
Here is a picture of it.
I want to decide when the tension is lessened on the rope, I want to squeeze or release a mechanism every single time that I wish to move any perceptible distance on a roof.
I don’t want the stress of wondering how far I gotta drop before the rope gets ahold of me.
Sorry if this question isn’t related to this forum, I’ve simply removed myself from any unnecessary online jibber jabber and this is one of very few I post in anymore
If it helps I tie the rope off on my tractor that is on opposite side of building
Thanks

Regardless of what device you use, make absolutely, 100% sure your dead end tie off will NOT move. Tractor, truck, whatever…. Take the key and put a posting on the controls so nobody will try to move it. If your rope is subjected to being hit by maybe a UPS delivery, the neighbor coming to see you, anything, barricade the area. You don’t want to make the evening news by being one of those stories about being yanked off the roof with the equipment meant to save you.

 

[nyone]

prussic might be the best solution

Exactly my thoughts. Gadgets and gear can fail so keep it simple.

 

[ericm979]

They make mechanical locking devices that slide upwards on the rope but are always locked in the downwards direction, without waiting for weight on them. You have to manually operate them to move to a lower position. When I was a rock climber long ago we called them "Jumars" but they're called ascenders now.

A prussik will work but you have to make sure the knot is tight when you reposition it. They tend to loosen if you're not putting weight on them. If it gets too loose it may not grab quickly when you fall.

 

[Streetcar]

Set up a trial.... Find a tree or pole and set up a "fall" from maybe 2 or 3 feet above ground and see how it performs... You may be surprised...
Any fall protection device that has any friction on rope going up is going to be a pain in the butt to use as you will be having to always work rope through device as you are trying to climb.... IF you don't like it or don't trust it, don't climb...

Materials are usually retired after they have been used in a fall

 

[JCoastie]

Materials are usually retired after they have been used in a fall

Yup!

Do a static load test with your full weight, but don't shock load it with a simulated fall.