round up ready sweet corn in

[NorTracNY]

Seriously Duffster. I'm starting to guess you might have a slight bias. I take it we're done with the case you brought up. Also, what does the LD50 value for an animal have to do with the guys statement about it's effectiveness on killing agriculture. His statement is a compliment for the herbicide. Are you saying that you'd be fine with drinking the stuff?

 

[Combustix]

What do you base the bolded comment on?

So a chemical that can kill off all other plant life except that which has been genetically modified to be resistant to it and by Monsanto claim it is one of the most potent herbicides for killing weeds you don't consider potent. Maybe the word agriculture was a poor choice of words, though if you plant two plants side by side and one is Monsanto gmo whatever and spray them both which one will live. Which one do you want to eat? Everything I have read on round up does not put it in a shiny light other than Monsanto's advertising and spokes people, go figure. I'm sure only the left leaning green people say bad things about round up so if that's the case I guess in this instance I am one. I look at it at want do I want to eat, or not so much me I can't be saved, but for my kids and their kids, I have a shot at keeping roundup out of their bodies.

Glyphosate is acutely toxic to humans. Ingesting about 3/4 of a cup can be lethal. Symptoms include eye and skin irritation, lung congestion, and erosion of the intestinal tract. Between 1984 and 1990 in California, glyphosate was the third most frequently reported cause of illness related to agricultural pesticide use.

4. Glyphosate has shown a wide spectrum of chronic toxicity in laboratory tests. The National Toxicology Program found that chronic feeding of glyphosate caused salivary gland lesions, reduced sperm counts, and a lengthened estrous cycle (how often an individual comes into heat). Other chronic effects found in laboratory tests include an increase in the frequency of lethal mutations in fruit flies, an increase in frequency of pancreas and liver tumors in male rats along with an increase in the frequency of thyroid tumors in females, and cataracts. (ne fruit fly study used Roundup; the other studies used glyphosate.)

5. Roundup contains toxic trade secret ingredients. These include polyethoxylated tallowamines, causing nausea and diarrhea, and isopropylamine, causing chemical pneumonia, laryngitis, headache, and bums.


Weed killer kills human cells. Study intensifies debate over 'inert' ingredients. — Environmental Health News

Roundup: Birth Defects Caused By World's Top-Selling Weedkiller, Scientists Say

Flame away but for me I want natural tasting food

 

[Duffster]

Seriously Duffster. I'm starting to guess you might have a slight bias.

I think it's rather clear you are biased against it. I don't think I have a bias at all. I just don't wear the blinders that some seem to wear.

I take it we're done with the case you brought up

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Not at all. How do you feel about the fact that he basically had a pure crop of GM seed in a matter of a years time? I find it hard to believe that happened without some help.

I believe you stated that he didn't spray it with roundup. But he did indeed. Where I come from one doesn't waste time, money and energy spraying a crop with something that will kill it unless I know the results are going to be different.

Also, what does the LD50 value for an animal have to do with the guys statement about it's effectiveness on killing agriculture. His statement is a compliment for the herbicide. Are you saying that you'd be fine with drinking the stuff?

Who commented on it's effect on killing ag?

If one what to discuss how bad something is for you I would think that the LD50 would be a likely measurement of that.

No thank you I would not like to drink the stuff. That doesn't mean it is dangerous if used properly.

 

[Duffster]

So a chemical that can kill off all other plant life except that which has been genetically modified to be resistant to it and by Monsanto claim it is one of the most potent herbicides for killing weeds you don't consider potent.

That is why I asked. i wanted to know why you though it was potent.

Glyphosate is acutely toxic to humans. Ingesting about 3/4 of a cup can be lethal.

So is caffeine and table salt, in high enough concentrations. Gly is actually less toxic to humans then atrazine.

Less then a thimble full of lorsban will kill a cow. Don't ask me how I know.

5. Roundup contains toxic trade secret ingredients. These include polyethoxylated tallowamines, causing nausea and diarrhea, and isopropylamine, causing chemical pneumonia, laryngitis, headache, and bums.

I guess they really aren't a secret then Eh?

Flame away but for me I want natural tasting food

So buy or grow organic. That is the great part. We all have a choice as to what we eat.

 

[Duffster]

The problem is, around here anyway, that there seems to be a new type weed every year. This will be the first year my wife's operation is planting Round-Up ready field corn for grinding into cattle feed. She's tired of battling acre after acre of weeds with cultivators, including foxtail, pigweed and now giant pigweed(which is becoming Roundup resistant). It's a constant battle so she's going with the Roundup-Ready stuff this year and see how it goes.

I guess I stated that wrong. When I said conventional I meant non GM seed and other chemicals like atrazine.

If you are aware that you already have Roundup resistant weeds why plant RR corn? Is it your intention to use roundup or is that a back up plan?

 

[tcreeley]

I am trying to eat more organic - ever since I saw the local potato farmers spraying herbicide to kill off the green plants prior to harvesting. I hate to think of the herbicide getting down to the potatoes.

Most people think everything is chemical free when it comes to food crops and meats, and what is there- quickly rinses off. Without a labeling law, why would they think otherwise? They trust the FDA to look out for their interests. They trust Monsanto to be honorable.

 

[ohio farmer04]

plant some today

 

[bwquestion]

Do us all a favor and burn it.

 

[ohio farmer04]

sweet corn up