RPMs not available at startup- New NS4710

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MaineBarn

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I got a Kioti NS4710 HST last week and don't think it initially was like this, but am not certain. It's been somewhat cold (0-10 degrees) overnight. I have an engine block heater and the optional fuel warmer. I've been starting it and letting it run for 10ish minutes, then raising and lowering the FEL plus curling the bucket 3+ times.

However, the throttle is not increasing the RPMs. I'll set it at max and it stays at idle. With snow on the ground, putting it to work after the temp gauge has gone up but it's not increasing the RPMs. After a few minutes of working, suddenly it will roar to life. Today it only did so after I dropped the throttle down and then upped it.

Seeing how the machine is "fixing" itself, it's not a loose cable or anything. It's also not something simple like a rev limit. The fuel came from the dealer and they said they use winter mix and have some anti gelling added in. Only possible causes I can think is the machine has a computer safety to prevent overwork until it reaches a certain temperature or the fuel is gelled and eventually works itself out.

Should I be concerned?
 
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It might be just a safety since that engine has a turbo and it's really cold weather.
 
   / RPMs not available at startup- New NS4710
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It might be just a safety since that engine has a turbo and it's really cold weather.
I was thinking this but there's nothing in the manual about this. It's weird it'd be silent about it. It's been fairly normal for winter temps. Having the RPMs limited until the engine warms up would make sense. Both times it was after about the same duration when the engine woke up. Figured I'd ask here to see if anyone more knowledgeable could confirm for sure.
 
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I was thinking this but there's nothing in the manual about this. It's weird it'd be silent about it. It's been fairly normal for winter temps. Having the RPMs limited until the engine warms up would make sense. Both times it was after about the same duration when the engine woke up. Figured I'd ask here to see if anyone more knowledgeable could confirm for sure.

I read a whole lot on tractor forums, and I have never heard of a Kioti limiting the rpm's during warmup.
 
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However, the throttle is not increasing the RPMs. I'll set it at max and it stays at idle.
I wouldn't dare setting the throttle to max after starting a tractor on a hot summer day, in case it would actually try to reach such high rpm without getting warmed up first.

Have you tried using just a little throttle in normal fashion? Maybe the computer is completely confused by the max rpm request while the engine is still cold and is doing its best to save the engine?
 
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I wouldn't dare setting the throttle to max after starting a tractor on a hot summer day, in case it would actually try to reach such high rpm without getting warmed up first.

Have you tried using just a little throttle in normal fashion? Maybe the computer is completely confused by the max rpm request while the engine is still cold and is doing its best to save the engine?
Yeah. I meant I slowly throttle it up and it won't increase. Just said "max" to illustrate that it's not increasing with any change
 
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Then I'd try adding some more anti-gel, keeping in mind that it needs to get circulated through the system before it can do any good.
 
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It might be just a safety since that engine has a turbo and it's really cold weather.

Is that a thing with other brands? I've never had a turbo.
 
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Is that a thing with other brands? I've never had a turbo.
Yes, it's fairly common. I believe LS even had issues a couple years ago for not having that "feature".
 

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