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[FL_Cracker]

Don't forget to try putting your foot on the brake and give the it just a little throttle and then put the unit out of gear. When I say a little throttle I mean a little, you may not even hear the engine RPM pick up.

If none of that works then you must have an adjustment problem.

 

[bczoom]

whoodle,

I'd like to see if we can truely identify which setup you have on the speed control assembly.

It sounds like you may not have it based on:
- Jippy's post about when the new speed lever assembly was installed (start with 24092) and your SN being 22892, it sounds like you have the old setup.
- Your post in "Abrupt stop on RTV" stating "I drove two rtvs in the last three weeks at two different dealers, Both stopped abruptly". Are one of these the one you got?

But... It sounds like you may have it from your post in this thread "and I suspect it probably has the new speed deal because the pedal cushions back out, and there is some glide in the higher gears."

The best way I can think of to confirm which way you have it is to get the height of the assembly (if I recall correctly, the new one is about 1" taller than the old version) and check the position of the rear linkage. For the height, looking at the tranny from the passenger side, look for what's in this picture. Speed control Assy On the left side of the pic, you can see a vertical bar (it'll have a bunch of linkages connected to it. What's the total height?

I don't have a pic of the rearward linkage but the mounting of it was reversed for the new speed control assy. There is a linkage that connects to the top of this vertical bar and extends toward the rear of the machine. It's probably close to 1' long. Where it attaches in the rear, is it mounted over the connecting bracket or below it?

I agree with Messick (and others) that any pressure on the tranny when stopped will cause difficulty shifting. Using the emergency brake, FL Cracker and Dargo's suggestions should help remove the pressure.

Another thing I found very beneficial is to not have it in 4WD when you need to shift on a hill. I too am in a very hilly area and get around fine in 2WD when on relatively hard packed surfaces.

If you have the new speed control assembly and none of the aforementioned tips are correcting your issue, as the first course of action, I would pursue having the dealer come out and address the issue. Like Messick said, it may just be a change to the damper.

Brian

 

[whoodle]

I delayed the fluid change on all your advice, but I did take it for an hour long ride along established atv trails. I did not have to do much shifting, but what shifting was done was moderately acceptable. As far as I can see, the difference was that the terrain was a lot less steep, I was in 2wd more, and no load. I wonder if my terrain is just too rugged. Brian, I printed your post and I'm going to try to decipher.

 

[bczoom]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( As far as I can see, the difference was that the terrain was a lot less steep, I was in 2wd more, and no load. I wonder if my terrain is just too rugged. Brian, I printed your post and I'm going to try to decipher. )</font>

John,

Keep playing around with things (2wd vs. 4wd, emergency brake, stopping and shifting on various terrains...). See what you can find.
Emergency brake fixed the issue for most everyone. Come to a complete stop, give the emergency brake a good yank (you'll want pressure on it) then try to shift. I'm in a very hilly terrain and mine won't even think about shifting on a hill without the emergency brake on.

Sorry my previous post seemed cryptic and requires decipher. Just trying to narrow down which version of the speed control you have so we can better address the issue. Respond if something doesn't make sense.

If you can take and post pics of the assembly and rearward linkages, we may be able to tell from the pics themselves. (Like in the link I provided, you can see that the detent doesn't rest correctly on the neutral block. If yours is like this, it may be an issue).

Brian

 

[whoodle]

Your description and picture are quite good. The height of that mechanism is 5 inches and the linkage connects above the bracket. The detent on the mechanism does line up with dthe bearing. I think it is the old version. One of the other ser. numbers I drove was 17328.
I can't quite see how one could say that you can't have the tranny under pressure. This is basically and atv, which means that by default one would arrive in compromising positions on a regular basis. How much force on the shifter do you folks think constitutes normal? Why do you think there is no forward and reverse pedal like on hydro cuts?

 

[bczoom]

I checked mine tonight. 5 1/8 inches, connected to above the bracket. Sounds like you have the old style.

Please continue to drive under varying conditions and try all the recommendations all have mentioned.

Don't worry... If we got through Dargo's, we'll get through yours!!! /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

 

[whoodle]

Thanks, I'll post some more when things dry out and I can get back out on the trails.

 

[FL_Cracker]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I wonder if my terrain is just too rugged )</font>

I don't think it is a too rugged problem. I had mine in a drainage ditch today and it was really steep. Some times only 2 or 3 wheels on the ground and it shifted fine. It's got to be a problem with the adjustments or tranny.

Talk to your dealer...

 

[whoodle]

Thanks Fl, I have got to think you are right. the machine is just so awsome that it doesn't seem possible that it could have such a black eye.

 

[whoodle]

I did a small bit of investigation with my 2 year old and wife. Lately, it doesn't seem to matter whether I'm on a hill or not. If it won't shift out of reverse, it takes some forcing. So I had my helpers work the gears with the engine off, and I observed the gears and hang ups. First, that is some complicated cabling. I would think there could be a more reliable(less mechanical) method.
There seem to be four conditions. 1.If it will go into reverse, it won't go into low without some pushing forward and back. 2.If it will go into low, it does't want to go into reverse.3. If things are just right the shifter can be move to all positions.4. usually if it will go into low it will go into med and high also.
When driving the problem manifests itself a not getting out of gear, but rocking back an forth doesn't help when the engine is on. Getting into gear is always possible because the gears can be aligned with the speed control.
Dargo, I think it was was you who mentioned rocking out of a muddy field. I can't even imagine rocking out of anywhere because it would take me so long to shift each time.