Runaway Tire!

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First of all he pulled a 7000# trailer with electric brakes WITHOUT a brake controller. I don't know about Nova Scotia but in PA that is ILLEGAL -- period. If a trailer is above 3500# capacity in PA it MUST have working electric brakes and MUST be inspected yearly. So yes I was a little upset with him.

Just to clarify he paid for everything that was damaged while he was using the trailer. That included SOME new wheel studs (I never said all of them -- just the ones that broke), SOME new brakes (when the wheel came off it twisted the drum which damaged the brake magnetsand wires on that hub), and the tire he damaged (again I never said all of them). He offered to pay for the trailer inspection to make sure everything was back up to snuff so I wouldn't get hit with a surprise bill at the next yearly inspection.

You don't have any skin in this game so I'm not sure why you are getting so wound up about somebody else's story. Also if you knew somebody was doing something illegal that could put other peoples' livers in danger are you saying you would not do anything about it??

Can't say I am wound up about this, and yes it is illegal to tow that much weight without brakes here too. I also didn't say I would do nothing if I saw someone doing something illegal/dangerous.

You have changed your story from "I made sure he paid for new wheels studs, new brakes, new tires, and a full inspection on the trailer." to "Just to clarify he paid for everything that was damaged while he was using the trailer. That included SOME new wheel studs (I never said all of them -- just the ones that broke), SOME new brakes (when the wheel came off it twisted the drum which damaged the brake magnetsand wires on that hub), and the tire he damaged (again I never said all of them). He offered to pay for the trailer inspection to make sure everything was back up to snuff so I wouldn't get hit with a surprise bill at the next yearly inspection." Do you not see that there is a difference between your two versions of what happened?

 

[two_bit_score]

Can't say I am wound up about this, and yes it is illegal to tow that much weight without brakes here too. I also didn't say I would do nothing if I saw someone doing something illegal/dangerous.

You have changed your story from "I made sure he paid for new wheels studs, new brakes, new tires, and a full inspection on the trailer." to "Just to clarify he paid for everything that was damaged while he was using the trailer. That included SOME new wheel studs (I never said all of them -- just the ones that broke), SOME new brakes (when the wheel came off it twisted the drum which damaged the brake magnetsand wires on that hub), and the tire he damaged (again I never said all of them). He offered to pay for the trailer inspection to make sure everything was back up to snuff so I wouldn't get hit with a surprise bill at the next yearly inspection." Do you not see that there is a difference between your two versions of what happened?

There is no real distinctive difference in what he said first and when he 'clarified' it for you. Get off your high horse and try to make a positive contribution.



TBS

 

[TractorNH]

As I mentioned in another thread, a Maine State Trooper was killed last week when two wheels came off a tractor trailer. He was a detective on his way to a meeting and had stopped to help a motorist who had spun out and left the highway. It's kind of unclear in the news report how it happened, but I suspect it was a very similar situation as that of the poster just above me.

It was an unfortunate freak accident and a tagedy for sure. He had a 6 month old son too.

Maine State Police mourn death of detective in freak accident on interstate - Portland Press Herald

 

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There is no real distinctive difference in what he said first and when he 'clarified' it for you. Get off your high horse and try to make a positive contribution.



TBS

There is a significant difference in what he said first and when he 'clarified' it for me and I will ride on a horse of whatever height I want to. You didn't understand it that way the first time either, or else you wouldn't have asked...

Question I have may be dumb but what has having a brake controller go to do with the studs breaking off?

 

[two_bit_score]

There is a significant difference in what he said first and when he 'clarified' it for me and I will ride on a horse of whatever height I want to. You didn't understand it that way the first time either, or else you wouldn't have asked...

:cool2:

 

[PILOON]

Once while driving at a fast clip I felt and heard a vibrating noise like when U drive over warning strips on road sides.
I slowed to 25/30 and examined the pavement but no strips or 'dozer tracks.
Very carefully and slowly I proceeded to a service station but the attendant refused to even examine my wheel so I drove away to only have the front left wheel depart and roll away but thankfully at a mere crawl pace.
They then did replace the bearings that had never seen grease at the factory.
That car was only a few months old but already had 3000 miles on it.

 

[sklunk]

There is a significant difference in what he said first and when he 'clarified' it for me and I will ride on a horse of whatever height I want to. You didn't understand it that way the first time either, or else you wouldn't have asked...

Nope no difference in what I said all along. In my original post I told my story of how he borrowed the trailer to haul a large truck and I told him not to pull it without brakes. He did it anyway which was illegal, caused damage to my trailer, and could have killed others on the highway. So he paid for all repairs to my trailer and an inspection to make sure it was back up to snuff so that I was not responsible. Then later in the discussion you jumped in with this scolding post:

So because he towed the trailer with a truck that didn't have a brake controller, you decided that he should pay for new wheels studs, new brakes that weren't necessary since you had done them 200 miles before, new tires, and a full inspection on the trailer?

Nowhere in my original post did I say how many brakes, tires, studs, etc -- you just implied that I made him replace everything and that I was wrong for expecting him to make sure the trailer was fixed correctly and legally. My "clarification" post was to try to explain to you that I DID expect him to take responsibility for using the trailer incorrectly and to replace the parts that he broke. I didn't think that was unreasonable.

Believe what you want since you will no matter how many people correct you.
I am finished responding to you on this issue. Let's get this thread back on track.

 

[TMGT]

I had that happen on an F550 service truck. Was heading down a toll road on my way into work. Was fixing to merge onto another toll road. Toll road had three merge lanes. Right side was west bound only. Lane I was in had the option of going east or west.

I felt the truck catch and veer to the right, then started wobbling on that side. Thought I had a blow out. Checked the mirror on that side fixing to merge over to the brake down lane when I saw a tire pass me . Let out a couple cuss words, straightened the truck back up and took the east bound brake down lane.

As I was easing the truck to a stop, I watched the tire weave through traffic and merge west bound. After getting stopped, I checked the truck out. One of the right real wheels was what went by me. The other finally flopped over when I stopped. And the axle, and rotor were resting on the tire like someone jacked the truck up and placed the wheel under it.

After the tow truck got there and loaded my truck, my boss and I went hunting for the other tire. We found it almost a mile down the road and about 20ft off the road in the grass next to a retention pond.

In my case, the shop that did the annual DOT inspection the day before on the truck overtightened the lug nuts and stretched the threads really bad causing the rims on the right rear to wobble slightly finally causing the studs to give out. Said shop had to pay for the tow, and the dealership for the repairs. They ended up having to replace all 4 rear rims, a new hub, as well as new studs and lug nuts on the front axle and left rear.

Thankfully the rim and tire somehow got through traffic without hitting anyone.

What year was the truck? I had the same thing happen on my 2000 while hauling a 3car wedge trailer loaded. Came off a high speed merge ramp at about 60mph, truck wobbles and immediately dropped onto the rotor, was able to get the truck over to the shoulder and keep it upright but scared the you-know-what out of me.

Both left rear wheels gone, inner was stuck in the trailer, never did find the outer (aluminum, was mad) luckily nobody got hit/hurt. All 8 studs were snapped off, come to find out is was a common problem on the early 550's.

Guess Ford finally got smart and went from 8 to 10 lugs in '05.

 

[4570Man]

Nope no difference in what I said all along. In my original post I told my story of how he borrowed the trailer to haul a large truck and I told him not to pull it without brakes. He did it anyway which was illegal, caused damage to my trailer, and could have killed others on the highway. So he paid for all repairs to my trailer and an inspection to make sure it was back up to snuff so that I was not responsible. Then later in the discussion you jumped in with this scolding post:


Nowhere in my original post did I say how many brakes, tires, studs, etc -- you just implied that I made him replace everything and that I was wrong for expecting him to make sure the trailer was fixed correctly and legally. My "clarification" post was to try to explain to you that I DID expect him to take responsibility for using the trailer incorrectly and to replace the parts that he broke. I didn't think that was unreasonable.

Believe what you want since you will no matter how many people correct you.
I am finished responding to you on this issue. Let's get this thread back on track.

How did pulling the trailer without brakes lead to all that damage?

 

[Dftodd]

What year was the truck? I had the same thing happen on my 2000 while hauling a 3car wedge trailer loaded. Came off a high speed merge ramp at about 60mph, truck wobbles and immediately dropped onto the rotor, was able to get the truck over to the shoulder and keep it upright but scared the you-know-what out of me.

Both left rear wheels gone, inner was stuck in the trailer, never did find the outer (aluminum, was mad) luckily nobody got hit/hurt. All 8 studs were snapped off, come to find out is was a common problem on the early 550's.

Guess Ford finally got smart and went from 8 to 10 lugs in '05.

It was on 03' F450. I had an 08 snap some studs when I was rotating the tires. Was torquing them down to spec (150ftlbs wet) and had one snap. Before I was done, I had 6 on one hub. Truck was under warranty so I had them replace every one of the studs on the truck.