Runaway tractor nearly killed me yesterday!

   / Runaway tractor nearly killed me yesterday! #11  
jk96 said:
You probably took off because you lifted the rear, or lifted enough to loose your braking ability. (no brakes on the front). Ask me how I know. :eek: If you were in 4 wheel drive and low gear it probably wouldn't have happened. I learned this going down our drive with a bucket full of gravel. It can happen in a flash as you found out. Glad your ok.

My thoughts exactly. It can happen so fast that sometimes we later wonder what happened.
 
   / Runaway tractor nearly killed me yesterday! #12  
Miltrade,
hey leatherneck!
I have to say the story was about as pulsing as a few of the hairy situations the Corps put me in...

glad you made it.

the question on my mind is: when will you be buying ag's or R-4's?

Semper Fi,

Mac
 
   / Runaway tractor nearly killed me yesterday! #13  
JP, It is good to hear you are ok. I've wrecked a tractor or two myself, luckily for some reason I had my seatbelt on. Do you have ballast on the back? It is very important and most often left off the tractor. If you don't have ballast make sure you get some it may safe your life!

Take care,
 
   / Runaway tractor nearly killed me yesterday! #14  
Thank you for your service!

Go forward down hill shifts the weight to the front wheels. Add a load to the FEL and there will not be any traction with the rear wheels.

When lifting heavy with the FEL (Dirt and trees count) add at lot of ballast to the back as you now know.
 

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   / Runaway tractor nearly killed me yesterday! #15  
As we're taught in pilot training, if you flip a switch and something bad immediately happens, flip it back to where it was before. Don't stop to think about it, just do it.

Same thing with the loader...

I know, easier said than done, especially after the fact. But, get this into your "subconscious"... if you do something and immediately things start going badly, IMMEDIATELY undo what you just did. ALWAYS be ready.
 
   / Runaway tractor nearly killed me yesterday!
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#16  
First of all, you should all know that I am ultra-safety-conscious. Goggles all the time, kevlar chaps when cutting, hearing protection, never move across side-hills on the tractor, never reach down toward a moving driveshaft, etc. etc. But here are my responses to some of the questions you all pose:

1. I will not be getting tractor tires as I do a lot of mowing and it would tear up my turf. I do about 80% mowing and only 20% cleaning up/lifting/etc. I do no traditional farming.

2. I have liquid ballast tires which, of course, only do so much. I typically put my Jinma chipper on the 3-pt if I'm going to lift anything substantial. However, in this case I had no plans to lift anything at all and my mistake was deciding to "push" the stump with my forks under the stump without realizing that the downgrade would require me to LOWER the forks as I moved forward the 3 feet I planned on pushing it. I was only intending to push it 3 feet forward so that I could get the tractor out of the hole and then turn.

3. I had the tractor in the middle gear. If I was lifting and moving with heavy loads up hill etc. I would put it in low gear. The tractor easily got up to 35 mph going downhill in middle gear, which tells you how freaking out of control things got on the way down.

4. I had my seat belt on, which would have saved me if I rolled, but also stopped me from jumping, which was one of the thoughts that shot through my mind. But I felt the belt tug when I briefly tried to lift up.

5. The pasture is surrounded by moderately thick woods, with some massive Virginia oak and other trees that, if I had not stopped after hitting all the fence posts, I probably would have collided with. If I made it through the fence and through the 30 feet of woods, there is a lower road and then 15 foot drop off that I would have plummeted down.

6. After getting the stump off the forks and doing the underpants check, I put the tractor away and non-chalantly walked to the front of the property where my wife was with my daughters. I did not, and will not, mention a word of it to my wife. If I did, I would likely have to argue about why I can't just pay somebody to come clear pasture!

7. Also, a couple people have indicated that I should have put a heavy attachment on so that my back tires would have had traction. However, if you read the story, you will see that in order to get through the hole, I had to take the attachment off the back, as it would have disallowed me to fit through both width and depth wise. No matter what attachment I would have had on, it would have had to be removed to get out of the hole. It would either hang on the sides or dig into the ground as the back tires went down into the hole. So, I had to take the attachment off. When I came up on the other side, I planned to push forward the stump, NOT lift it. I was planning on doing no lifting whatsoever that day. But the downward grade effectively created lift.

Bottom line: the error was deciding to put the forks UNDER the stump and then move forward, not realizing that the nearly indetectable downward grade at that point created the less than one inch of lift needed to send me careening down the hill. In retrospect, I SHOULD have just gone and gotten the other tractor and pulled the JD out backwards. But, without thinking that far ahead, I should have at a minimum pushed the stump out of the way using the bottom or tips of the forks, NOT by sliding the forks underneath.
 
   / Runaway tractor nearly killed me yesterday! #17  
"I did not, and will not, mention a word of it to my wife. If I did, I would likely have to argue about why I can't just pay somebody to come clear pasture!"

Milltrade,

Although I like your idea of not telling your wife of your adventure and understand the reasoning behind it....you've nearly guaranteed announcing that intention that some neighbor was standing nearby with a video camera going and caught the whole thing on tape. Something called "Murphy's Law," Ha! Good luck. Dyer, retired
 
   / Runaway tractor nearly killed me yesterday! #18  
Hey Miltrade,

Glad you didn't get hurt!

Your thread taught me that I need to keep in mind that there are no front brakes. Don't know why, but I never considered it an issue before. So thanks!

When I was in VT I bought a short sonotube, cut a couple of rectangles the correct sizes to slide a cat 1 drawbar through, sealed them on the inside with duct tape, buried the base in the ground, and then filled it with concrete. I put a big eyehook with some bolts and washers for grip in the concrete for the top link with a stick to hold it up while the concrete set. Presto, for $50 or so I had a compact rear weight. If you have some rocks, you can even use less concrete.

Mine only weighed around #400, but on my B, that was enough. I actually messed up on mine and put the drawbar in too far down, so I always had to put it on a 4 or 5"" high stump to hook it up. Turned out to be an advantage at times because it was further off the ground. It's possible that would have hung up in your hole too, but it seems less likely.

After reading your story, I'm sure I'll make another larger one for my next tractor! Thanks again for posting! The life you saved, might have been mine :)

Todd
 
   / Runaway tractor nearly killed me yesterday! #19  
Thanks for posting the story. I like being reminded how easily the unexpected can happen. I have the tendency to get too comfortable when performing tractor work and a story like this helps me to remember how dangerous the
work can be.

Vic
 
   / Runaway tractor nearly killed me yesterday! #20  
Thanks so much for posting your incident and analysis.
It's amazing how fun seat time is, and how dangerous it can become.
Glad you kept your belt on. :eek:

Paul
 

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