Rural porch pirates: ideas?

[Jstpssng]

Not everyone can afford a properly trained guard dog. There’s the purchase of the dog, immunizations, vet bills, food and a lot of time that it takes to train and look after the dog.
Why should anyone have to go through all these expenses to prevent this now rampant theft crime? We know it’s the new norm of minimal charges or no imprisonment, even glamorization of it that’s the cause!
Does everyone have to own security cameras, guard dogs, guns, alarms or can we be tough enough on crime to greatly reduce it?

You left out insurance... guaranteed that if your dog does anything to a thief he's going to sue you.

 

[Hay Dude]

Once again, it seems like a shifting from severe punishment of the perpetrators of theft to putting the burden on the victims of crime.
Yeah good point on the dog with liability insurance

 

[4570Man]

Once again, it seems like a shifting from severe punishment of the perpetrators of theft to putting the burden on the victims of crime.

If the punishment for stealing was hanging there would be a lot less issues in the world. As it is there’s more repercussions for trying to stop or prevent crime then there is for actually doing the crime.

 

[Hay Dude]

If the punishment for stealing was hanging there would be a lot less issues in the world.

Quite a radical shift too far in the other direction….

I think the old saying “let the punishment fit the crime” would be what’s needed.

Personally, I think public shaming, caning or some other form of effective punishment is what we need to bring back. It’s cheap and easy. They do this is some countries still and crime is extremely low.

Spending a few weeks in a cell with meals, bed, TV, phone, visitation, gym, etc. for punishment is not effective punishment and it’s crazy expensive and our rates of recidivism are high. It doesn’t work

 

[4570Man]

Quite a radical shift too far in the other direction….

I think the old saying “let the punishment fit the crime” would be what’s needed.

Personally, I think public shaming, caning or some other form of effective punishment is what we need to bring back. It’s cheap and easy. They do this is some countries still and crime is extremely low.

Spending a few weeks in a cell with meals, bed, TV, phone, visitation, gym, etc. for punishment is not effective punishment and it’s crazy expensive and our rates of recidivism are high. It doesn’t work

Maybe cutting their hand off for the first offense would be better. Stealing is about as low as it gets especially stealing stuff someone else needs to make their living. If they like having both hands they could always try not stealing stuff. If there was a severe punishment they would seriously think because stealing something.

 

[Hay Dude]

Maybe cutting their hand off for the first offense would be better. Stealing is about as low as it gets especially stealing stuff someone else needs to make their living. If they like having both hands they could always try not stealing stuff. If there was a severe punishment they would seriously think because stealing something.

Too drastic. Dear God, you’d have the ACLU all over that and you’d have to pay a surgeon to cut the hand off and let the person sit in a hospital. Too drastic and expensive
Public humiliation or corporal punishment for petty crimes, or public work details (pick up trash along roads, etc.) is very cheap, easy, effective. Two brothers (both friends of mine) work at the local county prison. It’s a revolving door of the same couple hundred clowns. It doesn’t work.

 

[Root Cause]

My guess is that any property with cameras and dogs is nearly risk-free from thieves. Theives are lazy but not stupid. It's too easy to move onto a location without multi-layered security.

I trained dogs many years ago. I will not own an attack dog. Too much liability as others stated but also too much continuous training. A medium-sized dog or bigger that barks will convince almost anyone to move along.

 

[Hay Dude]

I bet them porch pirates bring a pocketful of Scooby snacks.

 

[oosik]

For the first fifteen years or so - the delivery boys ( Big Brown, UPS, etc ) drove down my driveway. One mile down to my house. Then one winter Big Brown got stuck in my driveway. The tractor - heavy nylon strap - he was free again.

Since then - at my request - all packages are in a heavy garbage bag - hanging on the outer gate. This has worked just fine for twenty five years.

 

[newbury]

I deal with this both rural and suburban.
The only way I've found to deal with it is first don't order stuff that HAS to be delivered only 1 way, to the billing address.
For Mississippi I'll order stuff to be delivered to my BIL (thank you Mike!) or my MIL, both "townies".
"Stuff" to be delivered to my door is monitored by several video cams.

In Virginia I've several close "drop off places" for Amazon, FedEx, etc.