Thanks for the replies, I Have to agree with the points you people made, I've used a pipe wrench on the TL as well on a late 70's white, but the paint never flaked off it just wore in. A unit that new surprised me of the rust. The bucket is almost completely covered in rust not any paint on it that i can see. I dont ever remember that on the farm, but i this tractor and loader were not used and were sitting outside alot. The only other complaints were the toggle switch on the side council was missing they replaced it, and the fuel gauge wasnt reading correct and the tapped on the dash and it started to work again so they took some shields off and checked the connections and it works now both issues. Some section of paint was rubbed off one of the tilt cylinders but other that that it seems top notch. They put a drawbar on it from a TC 35, and added winter additives cause it -5 F and its only getting colder for a while.