SAE VS ISO HELP!!

[oldrustysteel]

This innocent looking label is driving me crazy. After buying my chinese baby-X, I immediately realized the control pattern is opposite to what I have always used. I expected it would be the more common ISO and I would just change it to SAE or JD or backhoe pattern. For at least 20 years, I have had the dipper, or stick, on my right joystick, and for the same amount of time, knew this pattern to be SAE or Backhoe, sometimes called John Deere. While reading posts on TBN, I see this label and realized, it is opposite from what I have known for years.. Could I be wrong, I asked myself. I know I am getting older, so I just accepted it as my mistake. End of story.. well not so fast. This has kept me up at night, wondering how I could be so wrong for so long. So after hours of searching and watching videos and going back in time remembering getting in a machine that was in ISO pattern and I would change it to SAE before I could operate it, maybe,, just maybe, this label could be wrong..? The logical thing for me to do is turn all of this over to the experts on this board. My sanity is now in your hands.. Please help. Thank You!!

 

[Eagle1]

I think the sticker is wrong. but I've been wrong before.
"There's only one main difference between them: opposite joysticks control the boom and dipper. With ISO controls, the right joystick controls the boom and the left joystick controls the dipper. With SAE, the left joystick controls the boom while the right joystick controls the dipper."
ISO vs. SAE Controls Made Easy

 

[Peter 315]

Just take the sticker off and run the machine..LOL

 

[gstrom99]

Just take the sticker off and run the machine..LOL

Can you swap the hoses, to reconfigure their operation?

 

[oldrustysteel]

Can you swap the hoses, to reconfigure their operation?

yes. changing the controls is no problem. The issue I have is with all the wrong information that's out there. I took the label as being the final say. I would think that anyone who goes to the trouble to make a diagram or label would be accurate.

 

[Eagle1]

yes. changing the controls is no problem. The issue I have is with all the wrong information that's out there. I took the label as being the final say. I would think that anyone who goes to the trouble to make a diagram or label would be accurate.

Wishful thinking.

 

[oldrustysteel]

Just take the sticker off and run the machine..LOL

That label is not on my machine. it is floating across the internet. it had me thinking that I was wrong. I wanted to find the correct answer. It wont be long until the experts here will put this issue to rest..

 

[Eagle1]

I'm no expert....

 

[oldrustysteel]

Thats what I always thought as well. I was surprised at how many people will say the opposite.. If someone asks me what my control pattern is, I want to be able to give them the correct answer. And if you are an operator, this is pretty important. Thanks for helping to clear this up for me.

 

[Eagle1]

All I know that on my Korean backhoe right is dipper and left is boom and I can use the correct stick most of the time. Still have to think about the bucket because it feels backward (it's not) compared to the loader I spend much more time using

 

[oldrustysteel]

I think the sticker is wrong. but I've been wrong before.
"There's only one main difference between them: opposite joysticks control the boom and dipper. With ISO controls, the right joystick controls the boom and the left joystick controls the dipper. With SAE, the left joystick controls the boom while the right joystick controls the dipper."
ISO vs. SAE Controls Made Easy

I think you are right, and that makes me right It doesn't bother me when I am wrong, as long as I learn what's correct. In this case, I accepted the fact that I may be wrong, however I never found complete proof. I really like this site because of all the great info you can find. I want to be able to contribute as well, but I want to be sure any info I share is accurate. Thanks for the link.

 

[Eagle1]

I only really learn by being wrong or should I say proven wrong

 

[D&D]

This innocent looking label is driving me crazy. After buying my chinese baby-X, I immediately realized the control pattern is opposite to what I have always used. I expected it would be the more common ISO and I would just change it to SAE or JD or backhoe pattern. For at least 20 years, I have had the dipper, or stick, on my right joystick, and for the same amount of time, knew this pattern to be SAE or Backhoe, sometimes called John Deere. While reading posts on TBN, I see this label and realized, it is opposite from what I have known for years.. Could I be wrong, I asked myself. I know I am getting older, so I just accepted it as my mistake. End of story.. well not so fast. This has kept me up at night, wondering how I could be so wrong for so long. So after hours of searching and watching videos and going back in time remembering getting in a machine that was in ISO pattern and I would change it to SAE before I could operate it, maybe,, just maybe, this label could be wrong..? The logical thing for me to do is turn all of this over to the experts on this board. My sanity is now in your hands.. Please help. Thank You!!
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[Eagle1]

Seems like the whole world is confused.

 

[oldrustysteel]

Seems like the whole world is confused.
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This is what I am talking about. there are 2 pics of the control pattern and they look opposite of each other to me.. The blue one shows ISO is the dipper and bucket on the right stick.. The BIGRENTZ shows ISO is the Boom and bucket on right stick.. For what its worth, I have always thought the BIGRENTZ pattern is correct and what I was trained on.

 

[MTGreen]

yes. changing the controls is no problem. The issue I have is with all the wrong information that's out there. I took the label as being the final say. I would think that anyone who goes to the trouble to make a diagram or label would be accurate.

You did say chi-com, right?
Machine might be okay but anything printed/translated is likely crap. Examples:

 

[oldrustysteel]

You did say chi-com, right?
Machine might be okay but anything printed/translated is likely crap. Examples:

neither of the above labels came from my machine.

 

[MTGreen]

neither of the above labels came from my machine.

I was making a point that much of the literature and labeling accompanying products from China is very poorly translated and error prone. I posted some unrelated examples

 

[oldrustysteel]

I am going to stick with what I Have known to be right for many years. SAE is dipper and bucket on right stick. Thanks to everyone who helped with this question.

 

[hayden]

Amazing that there are so many examples showing this incorrectly. Wikipedia has a good article, including references to the ISO and SAE standards. SAE has boom on the left stick, dipper on the right stick. ISO has dipper on the left stick, and boom on the right stick.