Safe FEL use or not?

[caddison]

JD,

Last year our fair board built two new buildings in our live stock area, a new sheep barn and show arena. We used a JD 4300 with a carrier carried by forks on the FEL on the 4300. We had a person on the tractor at all times manning the controls and keeping things level. It saved a great deal of time and we spent many hours without incident. We also used one on a CAT Telehandler and a IH 1256. They were safe and very handy.

 

[Richard]

Regarding the bursting of a hose at an inopportune moment... seems to me there are TWO hoses holding the loader up?

If ONE side burst, wouldn't the loader sag but not necessarily fall to ground?? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif Would the bursting of one side be reasonably expected to overload the other side hence, bursting it or twisting something?

Just seems to me that if a single side burst, you'd probably be hurting (in danger of falling out/other) but seems to me it wouldn't dictate the bucket crashing to earth.

What happens in the real world?

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Oh, and I side with the calculated risk side. Seems to me if I just got done carrying a 3,000 rock, it will HOPEFULLY carry my sub 1,000 lb body /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif (but I've never done it)

 

[markct]

yea but both hoses are connected to the same valve, they are just teed off the same line, so one goes the other drops too, but still i wouldnt worry too much, usualy hoses blow when on max pressure, what im trying to say is that your fel is usualy rated to lift many times more than the weight of two guys, so you have a safety factor of many times, if you have a loader rated to lift 2000 lbs, then two 250lbs guys still leaves you with a 4 to 1 factor of safety, and thats not to mention that the loader has a safety factor built into it originaly so you actualy have more than 4 to 1, now of course if your hoses are frayed and rusty then i would be much more leary of using it this way, but as long as everything is in decent condition i would consider it perfectly safe

 

[Richard]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( yea but both hoses are connected to the same valve, they are just teed off the same line, so one goes the other drops too )</font>


How obvious

/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif Shows how often I look at my plumbing

 

[beenthere]

Just a broken hyd hose won't allow a free-fall, but a controlled drop as the oil is pushed out the broken hose.
Wouldn't want to be standing under it nonetheless, but riding the bucket down probably would be just a new thrill, with outside chance of some sore spots. Not a life-threatening ordeal, IMO.

(Not even as good a ride as when a kid, we would take turns climbing up to 40' in aspen trees, while the other buddy would chop it down with a hatchet, and the rider crashing down through the other trees to the ground. We didn't have all this controlled organized play that the protected kids in today's society have /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif)

 

[bandit67]

beenthere,

Your childhood stories crack me up. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Certainly not very "PC" by today's "standards". Boy, sometimes I miss the good old days, where kids laughed when they got hurt while playing, instead of getting a lawyer. Takes all the fun out of being a kid. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif What kind of cool stories are today's kids gonna be able to tell when they grow up.

 

[DannyD]

Kind of reminds me of the ole tree in the woods at dad's. At the very top of it...........very tall to a 10 year old, but still tall today for a 46 year old. At the very top are the initials dd loves bg. still do today, and no that is not Holly's other name. next time I am at moms, I am going for a walk in the woods, they told me the forts, and playhouses are still there, i sure hope so.

Sadly the stories of today will be of shootings in high schools, kids in prison, etc. Can you imagine a generation that does not know what an long play album is, or 8 tracks tape, or even cassette tape? I get to live next to some of this, the son is not out of high school, and on house arrest. Kids these days have it made, or so they think.

OK, enough down memory lane.........I want a coke in a little glass bottle with a cap you have to pry off

 

[Junkman]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( OK, enough down memory lane.........I want a coke in a little glass bottle with a cap you have to pry off )</font>

Heck.... I'm so old that I can remember when Coke had real cocaine as one of the ingredients!!!!! That was back in the 1950's in Cuba..... /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif and, yes, it came in a green glass bottle with the name of one of the bottling plants on the bottom /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif....

 

[slowrev]

Danny,
Just think, these kids are tomorrows adults /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif And one day one of them might be president /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
On the brighter side maybe they will get all of the criminal acts out of their system before they go into politics.

 

[AndyM]

<font color="blue"> and, yes, it came in a green glass bottle with the name of one of the bottling plants on the bottom </font>

You mean one of these? /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

I own antiques that are as old as Junkman! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
[ducking]