SAFETY WARNING: Using Loader to Lift with Chains

[DVerbarg]

Re: SAFETY WARNING: Using Loader to Lift with Cha

Glenn and Kubotans,

Just finished a fast look through the owners manual for the 16LA and 17LA loaders for NH Boomers. There is no mention of using chains with the loader, either for or against. The NH cautions can be summarized as follows:
- Do not carry people on loader or bucket or attachment
- Do not get under a raised loader
- Do not reach through raised loader arms
- Avoid overhead wires
- Make sure dismounted loader is on level, hard surface
- Exercise caution when loader is raised
- Carry bucket in lowest possible position
- Lower bucket to ground when leaving seat
- Handling heavy objects can be dangerous, handle with care
- Use ballasting

There are more details but that is the general thought.

What does JD say?

DaveV

 

[EddieW]

In a recent post on CTB there was a discussion about chains and the final analysis was that good chains have no elasticity and store no energy themselves. If they break they will drop to the ground. However, things they are atached to can provide the energy to make them fly or snap back. Just stating what was said, maybe some of you guys with some knowledge of the properties of metals could clarify this. I will take an action to see what JD says in their manuals. Good discussion, I have been thinking about putting hooks on my bucket so this is very enlightening.

 

[richh]

Just got that darn saw mount made last weekend and put the winch back on, wife had me tilling and i did grind up 2 diff. areas of the road with the tiller to see how it will work, so i will let you know if it gets the "wash" out. Now i went and blew-out my back today at work "to many wood stoves" so im not sure if i will get out in the wods this weekend or not. Its suppost to snow tonight and Sat.!!! I will try and get a photo of the winch and post it for everyone to see since i mite be laying low.
Rich

 

[EddieW]

Re: SAFETY WARNING: Using Loader to Lift with Cha

Just got back from the shop with my manual. Had to walk through wet cow manure in near blizzard conditions (46 degrees)/w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif. Anyway, JD says about the same as NH. No mention of using chains to lift. It did advise to relieve all hydraulic pressure before disconnecting the loader and to seek medical help if the hydraulic pressure injects fluid through the skin.

 

[MChalkley]

The best loader brace I've ever seen is actually half a piece of pipe (cut lengthwise) and placed on the cylinder rod while the loader is up, then the loader is lowered slowly until the pipe is wedged.

MarkC

 

[MChalkley]

A wrecker operator was killed here in VA this week. A cable broke, snapped back, and ripped his throat out. I was getting the steering box on my truck replaced yesterday and the owner of the shop (he has several wreckers and a couple rollbacks) told me about it.

Did I mention that I really like good quality chains?

MarkC

 

[Ian]

scruffy: You're right. Guess I kind of 'made do' with whatever was around at the time, and never gave it any more thought.(after all, it worked the first time, right?)

Have to see what's in the scrap bin at work and see if I can get a better solution welded up.

I like MChalkley's 1/2 pipe idea too.

 

[Rowski]

Thanks Mike. So what's the "k" for 3/8 grade 80 chain? Just kidding! Took physics about 8 years ago... but don't use it every day.

Derek

 

[Rowski]

For recover work cable are alot easier to use especially on a winch. I have found the if you have to winch hook on to the something using a chain then hook the cable to the chain. I see a lot of operators hook the cable directly under the car/truck and the cable is then rubbing and/or the cable will be on a hard bend. Another thing I see a lot of is guys winching them selves out of mud hole ETC. and wrap the cable right around the tree or rock and "choke" the cable.

I have controls on either side of the truck so I get on the side where if a break did occur the cable would least likely get me. I tell you it gets pretty uncomfortable sometimes during recovery. You gotta watch for traffic (some people don't know what flares and cones are!), make sure the truck is chucked and not sliding and how much "pressure" is on the truck, watching what the vehcile being recoverd is doing (trying no to damage it anymore), make sure you are safe (and what do if something happens). If something does happen it happens so quick!

I've heard that the cable when it snaps you don't even see it!

I agree with the chains Mark 110%!

Derek

 

[glennmac]

Re: SAFETY WARNING: Using Loader to Lift with Cha

Dave, thanks. The lack of mention may tell us something. Any labels on the subject on the loader?

Glenn