Sand hill road help.

Taylortractornut · Aug 21, 2005

what wee do at the landfill we run the hills are all sgars sand. We leave the clay in the bottom of the hollows and make a lift then start getting the dirt off the sides of the hollow for the first run till we hit sugar sand then we use that for cover. FOr the trucks to run on it we take and get a few scraper loads of red clay and set the bowl 3 inches off the ground and dump it out and spread it then come back with another load and start dumping at the end of that one till we have reached the lift. The compact that road with the scraper and it stays there in the winter time we may add a little gravel ontop for truck traction.
if its gonna be used alot we will just use a layer of 3 inch ston on the claybut thats rarely used. When we are doned wit ha section of road we scrape up the agregate and the doze the the road bed and use the clay for rubbish cover. Onther trick we use if we are doing a a job around a house that is having carpet removed and there is a wet spot of 2 or 2 on the ground is to unroll the carpet otno the wespot and cover with gravel. that helps us recover the gravel as well as stabilize a soft spot.

Wiens · Aug 22, 2005

txdon,

The concrete washout acts as a bridge across the sand. Many homeowners have spent small fortunes trying to make their drive solid with gravel, rock, fiber material, more gravel, more rock, etc. They finally put down a layer of washout. Around here all it costs is a $25 per truck load "loading" fee and the trucking fee. It will be a solid roadbed, just put some road gravel on top to make it all weather. Trust me on this one............

Kevin

RodgerF · Aug 22, 2005

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You really should stop spinning the tires before you bury the tractor so deep. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

jinman · Aug 22, 2005

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I remember as a kid going to visit my uncle who was a pumper in the oil fields of west Texas. Those sugar sand roads we travelled on his daily route were hard and packed because they were soaked in crude oil. I just wonder if they still do that anywhere? Surely the EPA has put a stop to that practice. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Slamfire · Aug 22, 2005

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I remember as a kid going to visit my uncle who was a pumper in the oil fields of west Texas. Those sugar sand roads we travelled on his daily route were hard and packed because they were soaked in crude oil. I just wonder if they still do that anywhere? Surely the EPA has put a stop to that practice. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif )

Probably, more and more county road boards are paving roads that used to get the oil and chip treatment.

Farwell · Aug 22, 2005

Kevin,
Just called my local Rockcrete company and was told that I can get washout delivered for $10 per yard. Do you know how many yards you get for the $25? If I decide to go this route I will try to negotiate a lower price for getting around 100 yards. I am a little over 5 miles from the supplier.
Farwell

Wiens · Aug 23, 2005

Farwell,

It's been several years since we (my neighbors and I) bought our washout. We actually got the washout loaded free (one neighbors cousin owns the concrete plant); normal loading fee is $25 per truckload. I assume the truck holds 16-20 tons, not sure how that converts to cubic yards. I paid a friend from church $40 per truckload to haul it 10 miles to my house. The trucks were his custom harvesting wheat/silage trucks with 24 foot beds and 6 foot tall sides. He brought in 10 truckloads for a drive approximately 800 feet in length, ten feet wide. We had a payloader come in to spread the washout evenly on the lane. Cost was $100.

Total cost was $500 divided by four neighbors. Should have cost $750! Not a bad investment for a stable and solid lane. We have had no rutting or any other problems since the washout was laid down. The only other cost was two loads of road gravel for $225. I drag the lane once or twice a year with the neighbors 8N to get the gravel back into the tire tracks. What worked for us may not work for others.

Hope this helps!

Kevin

em14 · Aug 23, 2005

I would not use fencing as it will roll up under use. I doubt that you can anchor it very well either to prevent this roll up. You almost have to "bridge" the sand in this case or at least build a enough structure of rock or something like concrete washout. In Cam Ranh Bay there was a round sand that was like building on marbles and even PSP didn't work well. There lots of rock and asphalt used in the construction of roads there. So in dealing with Florida sugar sand they use lots of limestone.

LBrown59 · Aug 23, 2005

( I can get washout delivered for $10 per yard. .
)

What is concrete wash out?

Wiens · Aug 23, 2005

LBrown59,

Good question!.

When a concrete truck delivers concrete not all of it removed from the drum at the job site. When the truck returns to the mix plant they "washout" the drum. This is left to dry and then stockpiled. It is a powdery substance unless it is wet from rain. When placed on the ground in a 4 inch layer it will harden forming a "bridge" over the sand. Gravel placed over it will not sink down into the sand.

Hope this helps clarify the term "washout".

Kevin