School me on diesel fuel

   / School me on diesel fuel #31  
Since Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel lacks the lubicity of old time diesel it was suggested by my dealer (and several others) to ALWAYS use an additive like Howes or Power Service because they replace the lubricity required to prevent fuel system problems long term. Like you said, cheap insurance. I treat all of my diesel when I get it home (I buy in 5 gallon cans). As the bottles say, adding too much is okay too so if you're in doubt as to whether the fuel was treated, then add treatment.

As far as saving on the road taxes, in my state (NH) as long as you use more than 100 gallons of fuel per year in off-highway applications then you can submit a form with your receipts to get a reimbursement for the highway taxes. Off-highway applications includes the use of gasoline in landscaping equipment as well.
I agree, and actually add 1 glug (1 oz) of Howes per 5 gallons Spring through early Fall. Then double that to 2 glugs (2 oz) from late Fall till late Winter. Those are the amounts per the Howes label, and it's easy to remember. That reminds me my bottle of Howes is about empty. Rural King and Menards sells it for $9.99/ half gallon. The gift that keeps on giving, all year long. ;)
 
   / School me on diesel fuel #32  
For anyone that uses these additives, regardless of the brand, look at the recommended doses. One example is the PS white bottle @ .32-.40 oz per gallon of fuel. So, for a 5gal jug, that is 1.6-2.0 oz of additive. (~3-4 table spoons) I have known people to use a quart per 10 gal......way over treating.
 
   / School me on diesel fuel #33  
Wherever you might live in Ohio it gets colder here. I've been running diesels of one size or another for 45 years and must admit I've never thought about fuel treatments. I pump it into the tank and turn the key. It starts and runs fine. If it's under 10 degrees I use the glow plugs for 25 seconds on the bigger, older engine.

What type of diesel are you purchasing? What's it treated with?

You guys farther North are fortunate in regards to the suppliers treating the fuel for you.

I'm in "lap land". Not really North, not really South. So suppliers will be vague about their fuel treatment. I don't trust anybody. I act like I just purchased untreated straight #2.

Try running straight #2 without treatment in temps teens or below and you will not have a happy day... :(
 
   / School me on diesel fuel #34  
Hmmm...this is interesting. Last year they were saying that they don't blend, just treat. Now, this site talks about blending, not treating. :confused2: Yep, I'm confused. I may have to give them a jingle to find out what is happening.

Mobile Refueling - Winter Fuel - JACOBUS ENERGY
 
   / School me on diesel fuel #35  
Hmmm...this is interesting. Last year they were saying that they don't blend, just treat. Now, this site talks about blending, not treating. :confused2: Yep, I'm confused. I may have to give them a jingle to find out what is happening.

Mobile Refueling - Winter Fuel - JACOBUS ENERGY

I just called them and they still only TREAT the fuel, UNLESS, you specifically request for a blended fuel.
 
   / School me on diesel fuel #36  
The first paragraph is horribly misleading. It insinuates that #2 fuel will go to -10F before gel. Not even close!!!!

Don't trust anyone!!!! Treat your fuel!!!
 
   / School me on diesel fuel #37  
The first paragraph is horribly misleading. It insinuates that #2 fuel will go to -10F before gel. Not even close!!!!

Don't trust anyone!!!! Treat your fuel!!!
No...they stated "...diesel begins to gel when the fuel reaches its cloud point which ranges between -10 degrees and 15 degrees F...."
 
   / School me on diesel fuel #38  
No...they stated "...diesel begins to gel when the fuel reaches its cloud point which ranges between -10 degrees and 15 degrees F...."

Yep, that's exactly what they said. Cloudin is a couple degrees at most from gel. Their temp might be believable if it was +10F - +15F.
 
   / School me on diesel fuel #39  
Yep, that's exactly what they said. Cloudin is a couple degrees at most from gel. Their temp might be believable if it was +10F - +15F.
It is odd that they went from the coldest to the warmest temps....-10 and 15.
Did they mean 15-10 deg??? That would be more accurate.

How to Prevent Diesel Fuel Gelling
 
   / School me on diesel fuel #40  
There is no lowest temp. The statement should have declaredwhen clouding and gel would begin. Every degree below that is irrelevant.
 

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