Scraper for landscaping question?

   / Scraper for landscaping question? #1  

kdlklm

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I am looking for a small scraper for transporting dirt from one end of my acreage to the other end. (600 feet) I want to be able to level it with the scraper, as well as carrying dirt. I have a 14hp Kubota which has the 3 Pt. hitch. So it can't be to large of scraper. Any help on choosing the right one would be great. Thanks
 
   / Scraper for landscaping question? #2  
I'd suggest you look for a 4' box blade. There are lots of good brands. The one I had and liked was a Monroe Tufline.

Bird
 
   / Scraper for landscaping question? #3  
Box scrapers really are for grading rather than transporting. Unlike highway scrapers, a box scraper is similar to a blade with end plates to keep dirt from coming off the blade ends. The bottom is open.

You can scrap a box full and then drag it somewhere else. However, dragging is usually done from one part of a grade you're working on to another part. This type of operation requires many adjustments to the top-link to control whether the scraper cuts, drags or spreads. Often adjustments are required on the fly, and a hydraulic top-link is almost an essential. Even so, these separate operations at best are not completely clean. A blade set at an angle for dragging will still cut and spread here and there. The 600’ between the two locations would certainly get tore up.

Box scrapers are useful for all sorts of tasks, but I don't think one is going to work well in this particular case unless a road is being built between the two locations. In addition, as Bird noted a 4' scraper is certainly as big as you'd want. However, the box of a 4' scraper really doesn't hold much. Moving a significant amount of dirt 600' would take many trips.

If the tractor has a loader, the easiest way might be to rent or borrow a dump trailer and use the loader to fill the trailer. Of course, using just the loader would work but would take many trips. Without a loader, the best alternative might be to get a 3ph scoop (mentioned on CTB). The cost of a scoop is almost low enough to justify the purchase even for a one-time use. However, when looking for implements for a small 14hp tractor, make sure the 3ph mounts on the implement and tractor are CAT1 and the lower 3ph arms can be spread wide enough to mount the implement.
 
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Also for using a scoop on a lot of small tractors, the pins can/have been reversed (turned to face inward) to facilitate hookup if the arms can't be spread wide enough.
 
   / Scraper for landscaping question? #6  
Thats a nice scaper but I think what youll find out is that your gonna need a bigger tractor to pull that with..You just wouldnt have the traction and once you got traction probally not the hp.. Maybe call the manf. to find out specs for operating scraper..
 
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CAT1, or Category 1 is the pin sizes of the 3ph mounts (the top link uses a smaller size pin than the lower links). There also are Categories 0, 2 & 3, a special for Ford 8N's, and maybe even more. The categories are just standards used in the industry so implement makers can manufacture equipment that can be mounted on many different tractors. The categories roughly correspond to the size of a tractor. CAT 1 is almost a universal among compact tractors. I mentioned the category issue because some small compacts use a CAT 0 hitch, which is fairly uncommon. Few manufacturers make implements for CAT 0 hitches, but some CAT 1 implements can be adapted through sleeves replaceable pins etc.

The distance the lower hitch arms can be spread is another issue. The pin sizes may be standard, but the hitch width isn't. Some small tractors have hitches that are too narrow to mount some CAT 1 implements. Anyway, these are just some things to be aware of when buying implements for a tractor.

On other comments: I use a 6' scraper on my 24hp tractor that has turf tires. It works, but it can have traction problems with tasks such as ripping sod. Traction and power problems usually can be managed by going slower, taking small bites etc. (it just takes longer). However, I believe somebody else mentioned the power/traction issue. A 14 pto hp tractor may have some difficulty using the full capacity of a 4' scraper.

I'm not quite sure where to find a rear scoop. I believe a regular here has one and spoke well of it, although he later bought a loader. A dealer probably could locate a scoop.
 
   / Scraper for landscaping question? #9  
I've got a dirtscoop that I picked up at auction for ~$100. It is definitely above a shovel & wheelbarrow /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif, but can't come close to an FEL /w3tcompact/icons/crazy.gif. Then again, my wallet couldn't come close to an FEL either /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif. I use it a lot to scrape dirt out of the fields and dump it in low areas near the house. I also use it like a wheelbarrow in that I toss each year's rock crop from the garden onto it /w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif.

I have the larger one shown at this link http://www.northerntractor.com/tracacc1.html

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