Sears Tools That Suck On The Price

   / Sears Tools That Suck On The Price #71  
That's not gouging. That's just keeping your stupid customers and driving away the ones with enough sense to shop before buying. The invisible hand of the market in action. Capitalism in it's most basic form and in it's finest fettle.
 
   / Sears Tools That Suck On The Price #72  
Selling an exact same item for double is not price gouging. If you buy the double priced object then you arent shopping smart. Businesses are free to price their merchandise as they see fit for general sales. Price gouging comes to play when there is shortage due to natural disasters etc and persons mark up their merchandise double or tripple for that event. That is illegal and can carry hefty fines for the merchant
 
   / Sears Tools That Suck On The Price #73  
That's not gouging. That's just keeping your stupid customers and driving away the ones with enough sense to shop before buying. The invisible hand of the market in action. Capitalism in it's most basic form and in it's finest fettle.

Not the best choice of words but correct.

"The price of freedom is eternal vigiilance"--Thos Jefferson
 
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   / Sears Tools That Suck On The Price
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Ok, let me put it this way.I dont believe its a good advertising strategy on sears part.No different that Wal Mart spending tons of money for TV ads only to not have money left over to pay people to be in the depts to help the customers.
Apparently they feel they dont need to ''inpress' the customers
 
   / Sears Tools That Suck On The Price #75  
Ok, let me put it this way.I dont believe its a good advertising strategy on sears part.No different that Wal Mart spending tons of money for TV ads only to not have money left over to pay people to be in the depts to help the customers.
Apparently they feel they dont need to ''inpress' the customers

This is the modern way of business thinking and is what schools teach. Let's say a retailer sells quality bed sheets and cuts it's thread count from 550 to 525 or the number of clerks from 20 to 18. Well, maybe 2% of the customers will leave but the move will generate 4% greater profit for the shareholders who own the business. It's just a calculated risk and is done everywhere today. No change until we reach the tipping point.
 
   / Sears Tools That Suck On The Price #76  
Sear's business model has changed. They had to cut costs to compete. Unfortunately quality went with it. In years past a family went to Sears, mom and kids went to buy clothes, dad went to look at tools and sporting goods. That was already changing when Kmart bought Sears in 2005. Families don't shop together, people don't buy clothes there and Craftman is sold everywhere - Sears, Kmart, Ace Hardware, Amazon, etc.

In 2011 Kmart/Sears closed 120 stores because as one analyst stated "effectively ask(s) customers to pay for a poorer shopping environment than available at competitors and online." Their online website is similiar to Amazon in that it sells items from itself and from other retailers that Kmart/Sears cannot sell, such as Nike, which refused to allow its product to be sold in Kmart.

The stock is down from a April 2007 high of $195.18 to yesterday's close of $54.53. Predictions are the Sears brand stores will disappear and be replaced by Kmart. The product lines like Craftman and Kenmore will continue to be produced. You just won't buy them at Sears.
 
   / Sears Tools That Suck On The Price #77  
Well, for me, whether it's "acceptable in the new business model" or whether its "price gouging" (not in times of disaster) or even if you just call it "smart markup" or some other name, buying items from HF and reselling them to unsuspecting customers for up o 2000% more than HF sells the item is MORALLY wrong.

We certainly don't need "big brother Washington" getting its greedy hands into regulating Sears (or any more of our lives) They have regulated us too much already.

When Sears or any other business starts overpricing (I think that's gouging) customers who if they knew of the reselling tactic would rethink their purchase, then, in my mind, that business is being deceptive in their pricing. That kind of business practice is not ethical, not moral or above board and certainly not the kind of store I want to trade with.

In the past, Sears was a leader in tool quality, good, relliable tools at a fair price, a lifetime warranty and the comfort of knowing that if something happened, Sears would "make it right." The last time I took a ratchet into the store because it wouldn't work, I was met with a product change from the all metal ratchet I bought and my ratchet was exchanged with one that does not have the quality of my old one. I was told to take the inferior one with plastic parts as a replacement or keep my broken tool.

Years ago, I bought a Craftsman pocket knife. It was in the display cabinet alongside a Sears pocket knife. Craftsman was $20, Sears was $10. Craftsman had a lifetime warranty. When the brass pin came out of the hinge, I took it back. They gave me a Sears knife in replacement. It had a 90 day warranty against "failure" (whatever that means). So much for what I bought, a knife with a lifetime warranty. They changed the item and removed the warranty with that change. That's deception, at least in my mind.

The practice of reselling HF tools at ridiculous markup may not meet a "legal definition" of price gouging, but in my belief, it's unethical to treat customers that way. Imagine if a plumber came to your home to fix a leaking hot water heater, told you he had a "special" on water heaters, you told him to go ahead and replace the bad one and once done, he gave you a bill for $7500.

When you ask him about the bill, he tells you he bought clearance water heaters at Lowe's for $75, and brought it to your house to install with a charge of $7450 for the water heater. The he tells you that he's cutting you a deal by only charging $50 (for labor) to remove the old one and install the new one. Would you be thanking him for "helping" you with his billing practices or would you feel you'd been screwed by what he did? If you're OK with thinking Sears is "just doing business" then get ready for more businesses to follow suit. I, for one, don't think it's fair, ethical, morally right, or good business to "gouge" customers the way Sears is doing. They may be "legal" in doing it, but that doesn't make it right. So, I'll spend my money at HF for the same product (if I need it and it meets my standards) or I'll go to a Sears competetor if I need better quality. I won't be shopping at Sears because, in my opinion, they gouge customers with their sales tactics.

My purpose for bringing up the things I have is to identify what Sears is doing to us as customers. If you don't think they are wrong, then keep shopping there. If you agree with them and the practice, spend your money with them. but, if you think it's wrong of them to gouge the public that way, do what you think is right.
 
   / Sears Tools That Suck On The Price #78  
Sear's business model has changed. They had to cut costs to compete. Unfortunately quality went with it. In years past a family went to Sears, mom and kids went to buy clothes, dad went to look at tools and sporting goods. That was already changing when Kmart bought Sears in 2005. Families don't shop together, people don't buy clothes there and Craftman is sold everywhere - Sears, Kmart, Ace Hardware, Amazon, etc.

In 2011 Kmart/Sears closed 120 stores because as one analyst stated "effectively ask(s) customers to pay for a poorer shopping environment than available at competitors and online." Their online website is similiar to Amazon in that it sells items from itself and from other retailers that Kmart/Sears cannot sell, such as Nike, which refused to allow its product to be sold in Kmart.

The stock is down from a April 2007 high of $195.18 to yesterday's close of $54.53. Predictions are the Sears brand stores will disappear and be replaced by Kmart. The product lines like Craftman and Kenmore will continue to be produced. You just won't buy them at Sears.

Good info post to help understand the changes at Sears.
 
   / Sears Tools That Suck On The Price #79  
This is the modern way of business thinking and is what schools teach. Let's say a retailer sells quality bed sheets and cuts it's thread count from 550 to 525 or the number of clerks from 20 to 18. Well, maybe 2% of the customers will leave but the move will generate 4% greater profit for the shareholders who own the business. It's just a calculated risk and is done everywhere today. No change until we reach the tipping point.

I see this all of the time. While it makes sense often businesses over do it then one day wake up to find they have lost the edge that made them successful initially.

Harbor Freight is viewed as holding prices low and increasing quality of goods.

Sears is viewed as increasing prices and lowering quality of goods.

The guy that bought a pocket knife at Sears 50 years ago and it breaks now is not going to be happy when he returns it to Sears due to unmet expectations. At the same time he may be happy to toss the broken tool from Harbor Freight bought just 5 years ago due to his low expectation of the product/company.

As was posted I can see the value of dropping the Sears name totally because Sears is gone to never return as the image many associate with the name.
 
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