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With the van and the suburban I find them more convenient to throw stuff in and out. In the case of the van it is lower to the ground and with the double side doors getting tools in and out it much easier then in and out of the bed of the pick up. which is why they are so popular in the service industry. Even with a cap on a pick up reaching tools in the bed is a pain. Roof racks are nice but you still have to tie it down with the van I can get 10 foot lengths in, in between the seats. They don't get wet and don't have to tie it down. When you do not have to lash things down...... it is convenient and safer in the long run. You do need to be concerned about the tool box becoming a projectile when you stop fast. it is front wheel drive so good in the snow. I have a pick up, and dump trailer, but you still can beat a van. Now a 1 ton 4 wheel drive van that would be nice. That would tick off a lot of boxes.
 
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My only problem with Van's is I had a friend killed in a minor crash by stuff in his van. I will never own another one. And SUVs are just for more people for me. I may get one of those. But a truck or trailer is the safest way to haul stuff. I will stay with that.
 
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My only problem with Van's is I had a friend killed in a minor crash by stuff in his van. I will never own another one. And SUVs are just for more people for me. I may get one of those. But a truck or trailer is the safest way to haul stuff. I will stay with that.

Most vans have a fairly sturdy cab divider. And that could have with any vehicle. How many people keep a receiver hitch in the back floorboard of their truck? And I agree for many applications a trailer is the best. I’d way rather load a trailer vs a truck bed. I can load a refrigerator by myself on a trailer without flipping it on its back.
 
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John Deere as I recall actually put an axle with conventional steering, along with articulation, on one of their smaller wheel loaders, to improve stability.

TOTALLY, destroys the whole ROBUST, SIMPLE, SOLID AXLE idea of a wheel loader.

Its German Liebherr. Deere only builds large wheel loaders and backhoe loaders, their dozers, small loaders, telehandlers are Liebherr and their excavators are Hitachi.

And by the way, its the rear axle, which doesnt bear the load.
 
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My only problem with Van's is I had a friend killed in a minor crash by stuff in his van. I will never own another one. And SUVs are just for more people for me. I may get one of those. But a truck or trailer is the safest way to haul stuff. I will stay with that.

Remarkable. Does the USDOT have guidelines for cargo space dividers ? I have never heard of such incident here, probably because vans use a steel divider, in fact they are just chassis-cabs with a Cargo body attached. Making it as sturdy as any pickup truck cab.

Folks like DHL often use delivery vans with an opening between cab and cargo space, but these have a reinforced divider behind the cab.

My neighbour wasted his Nissan Patrol (think of a Japanese Bronco) by driving past the wrong side of the bridge guardrail after consuming a bottle of liquor. The mole traps in the back hit stars in the windshield, luckily for him he was folded over the steering wheel so the traps didnt knock him out.
 
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...i meant, DHL walk-in vans have a mandatory divider behind the DRIVER. Not the full cab.
 
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Remarkable. Does the USDOT have guidelines for cargo space dividers ? I have never heard of such incident here, probably because vans use a steel divider, in fact they are just chassis-cabs with a Cargo body attached. Making it as sturdy as any pickup truck cab.

Folks like DHL often use delivery vans with an opening between cab and cargo space, but these have a reinforced divider behind the cab.

My neighbor wasted his Nissan Patrol (think of a Japanese Bronco) by driving past the wrong side of the bridge guardrail after consuming a bottle of liquor. The mole traps in the back hit stars in the windshield, luckily for him he was folded over the steering wheel so the traps didnt knock him out.
Europe has always been further ahead on safety than the US IMO. Try and find a cup holder in a European car? There will come a day when they knock down on how goods are transported. Granted it maybe easier to load a fridge on to an open trailer, it however still has to be tied down. You might do it correct, but do you do it correctly every time. I know I have not. There are times I could have done it more correct. Move a fridge in an enclosed van body, for this discussion, is safe every time.
If you are moving stuff in and out everyday enclosed van body is the way to go. It is about minimizing risk, especially if you have employees. If you put something in the van and it slids forward because it is not tied down, it hurts or kills you. If you do not tie something down correctly in the back of your pick up chances are it will hurt or kill someone else. It happens and a lot of time people do not even realize it.
Ladder racks are scary. They have some nice ones now that lash things down rather secure and pretty much force you do it right. Most employees do not give a rip. Counting on them at the end of the day when they are tired to every time lash the ladder down on the ladder rack correctly?
If i don't give them a ladder rack and make them stuff it in side a van? I don't have to worry about it coming off and killing someone.
It is about risk and keeping insurance claims down? Then your rates stay lower. Then you can pay your employees more and we all live in a happy world......:)
 
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The cargo vans we used to buy for telephone system installers were empty shells from the seats back to the rear doors. Not a thing inside. First step was to install the racks, partitions and cages.
 
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Remarkable. Does the USDOT have guidelines for cargo space dividers ? I have never heard of such incident here, probably because vans use a steel divider, in fact they are just chassis-cabs with a Cargo body attached. Making it as sturdy as any pickup truck cab.

Folks like DHL often use delivery vans with an opening between cab and cargo space, but these have a reinforced divider behind the cab.

My neighbour wasted his Nissan Patrol (think of a Japanese Bronco) by driving past the wrong side of the bridge guardrail after consuming a bottle of liquor. The mole traps in the back hit stars in the windshield, luckily for him he was folded over the steering wheel so the traps didnt knock him out.

I don’t know that it’s mandatory because I’ve seen them without it but most vans here do have a cargo divider.
 
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Saw this today at the big box store...

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