Renze
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Liter per so many km is what we talk about, though the onboard computer shows liter per 100km.
1 on 20 is about 50mpg
I can get 1 on 23 if i insist, but 1 on 10 isnt unusual when towing heavy (7k pounds)
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1 on 20 is about 50mpg
I can get 1 on 23 if i insist, but 1 on 10 isnt unusual when towing heavy (7k pounds)
Renze
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I am not familiar with on-road emissions, but offroad emissions didnt get serious untill 1996
Volvo pioneered with the controlled catalyst, with the Lambda sensor, in the late 70s. When the EPA mandated lower emissions, my coworkers 1981 Chrysler had only 180hp from its 5.9, about half of what it did a few years before.
My first diesel, a 1995 Volvo 440 1.9 turbodiesel, had no emission stuff on it, not even EGR. With its 90hp and 1033kg it was quite driveable.
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BigBlue1
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At some point after the 80's. Not sure when. I'm just saying that the eventual emissions stuff really killed mileage. I just know that little diesel Chevette could get 51 mpg easily and by the 90's there wasn't a vehicle on the road that could get into the 50's and I'm pretty sure there still isn't today. The 44 from Renze is pretty darn high for today's vehicles, AFAIK.
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I think you're just not paying attention to what was out there at the time. I drove a mid-1990's diesel VW Passat wagon company car for a few weeks in Germany ca.1998, and I'll double-check with one of my old work buddies this weekend, but memory tells me it did roughly 60 mpg from one fill to the next. I remember specifically tracking it, because fuel was so absurdly expensive in Germany, by comparison to here.
It was also memorable to me, because I drive almost exclusively very large displacement engines here (current is 6.4 liter), which are decidedly not fuel efficient. I think the car I drove in USA that year averaged 8 mpg.
I didn't love the diesel Passat, it wasn't exactly a sports car, but it could do an easy 160 km/h (100 mph) on the autobahn. I was only there about 2-4 weeks per year, back then, so always got whatever company car was available at the time.
RobertN
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Do any other country still commonly use miles or gallons any more? A quick web search says US and sometimes UK.
KennyG
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Actually, that's speed. Maybe barrels per league?Furlongs per fortnight
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You reminded me of a similar near-catastrophe. Guy with the gold mining claim downstream from us had an ancient small bulldozer.
A pine tree had fallen across the narrow cliffside fire trail. Now getting in/out from there to pavement went from what had been an hour, to 3 hours going the long way around.
Guy drove his dozer to where the tree was across the lane. The tree was resting at near 45 degrees from flat with the base up on the left bank, and the right side, top end of the tall tree, hanging off the cliff on the right side.
Guy asked me to come along as a spotter, he knew this was going to be dangerous. He bladed a ramp up to the near side of the sloping tree but there was no way to compact what he pushed to the far side. Then he started to drive the dozer across it.
But with the far side too soft, he teeter-tottered on the sloping tree trunk and slid down toward the cliff edge. He gunned it and just barely made it across, scarily close to sliding off the cliff and tumbling down to the stream far below.
I wish I could get that image out of my head.
