Shock Collar for Dog training

[dieselbeef]

you need a radio fence...i just put one in..works great


radiofence.com

 

[DennisArrow]

I am glad that a radio fence works to fulfill YOUR needs; but I need a way to reinforce the "stop" and "come here" command to my younger dog........As I posted in my last reply I have put them in a 3 acre fenced pasture to allow them to run around.............MY need is when they begin to head out to parts unknown and I say: no, stop, or come here that the command over rides the desire to "run"..............

Ok......so NOW where do a find the least expensive shock type collar........I am finding them at all price ranges..........Again, this is NOT for general type training......they already KNOW: sit, heel, lay down, stop, and many herd commands......This is for over riding that crazy desire to run.............Thanks.......Dennis

 

[dieselbeef]

hey man whatever..itll kepp the dogs within yer fenceline...but the radiofence place sells all kinds of training collars also..if u wouldve looked

 

[sodamo]

OK this is probably just me as there is probably no logic to it, but I don't understand the RTV running thing. Have a neighbor who runs his dogs up our road with his truck. For some reason, his otherwise well behaved dogs see this as an opportunity to take off when they choose - happens unpredictably but only when truck running. I think his dogs may be Australian shepards, not sure but they are a working breed. Had another friend qho also ran his working breed up our road and had same problem. Both these guys had enough property for plenty of exercise so why this method kinda escapes me. Can't imagine my dogs chasing my truck a mile+ up the road more than once or twice. I suspect was they learned they weren't getting a ride, they just sit there and say aloha.

As for where to buy just Google. Bought mine from Amazon. Petsafe Yard and Park Trainer. Of course for me, the dang shipping charges are as important as the sales price.

Also, there was menrion of training the dog to turn off the shock, as far as I can tell, not a feature on mine and the shock is only controlled by me pushing the button. I do have a bark collar with that type feature, dog can control the level by increased barking, it resets to lowest by no barking.

Best of luck and have fun

 

[dmccarty]

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I have five dogs that I can have sit side by side on the floor waiting for a hand signal to start eating out of their bowls. Until I give that signal, they will stay and leave the food alone. I leave a steak on the counter in the kitchen with those same dogs and I'm not around in that kitchen, I can't blame them for me leaving a steak out for them to grab (and yes, I've lost a couple of steaks). However, that's not their fault, that's my fault for leaving the steaks out where they can get to them while I'm not supervising them.
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That made me laugh and think of Chase..... :laughing:

We used to have a Golden named Chase. My nickname for her was Lady. She was a Lady. Now she loved to Chase hence the name but she was really a Lady. She never got into trouble. She just did what she was supposed to do. A great dog.

One year we were at my parents for Christmas. I was in the kitchen fixing me a turkey sandwich and Chase was on the floor nearby cooling herself off on the tile floor. Boy I really could not wait for that the sandwich. I have been waiting for left over Turkey sandwiches for months! :thumbsup: I finished the sandwich, left it on a plate, and walked out of the kitchen for a minute. I got back and the sandwich is GONE! :laughing:

What did I do?

I blamed my dad!

He LOVES my sandwiches! Always has. Never have been sure if it is because the sandwich tastes most excellent or if he loves the sandwich because he did not have to make it!

So I yell at my dad for stealing my Turkey sandwich. :laughing: He is sitting down reading and gives me the what the heck are you talking about look and speech. Which I DO NOT believe for ONE second! Did you eat my sandwich?!!!! What sandwich says he.

At about that point I look down at the counter. The sandwich was on a plate which was sitting on a newspaper I was getting ready to read. I noticed that the plate looked like it had been licked clean. And the paper looked like it had been licked in a couple of places..... Hmmm said I.:laughing:

My old man might take my sandwich. He might deny taking the sandwich. But I do not think he would lick the plate clean and lick the newspaper for good measure. :laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing:

I looked down at Chase. She looked at me. She was panting a bit. I swear she was smiling. I laughed and called her what she was. A *****.

She still was my Lady.

Later,
Dan

 

[whistlepig]

I am glad that a radio fence works to fulfill YOUR needs; but I need a way to reinforce the "stop" and "come here" command to my younger dog........As I posted in my last reply I have put them in a 3 acre fenced pasture to allow them to run around.............MY need is when they begin to head out to parts unknown and I say: no, stop, or come here that the command over rides the desire to "run"..............

Ok......so NOW where do a find the least expensive shock type collar........I am finding them at all price ranges..........Again, this is NOT for general type training......they already KNOW: sit, heel, lay down, stop, and many herd commands......This is for over riding that crazy desire to run.............Thanks.......Dennis

We sometimes run our dogs around our yard that is not fenced with the ATV's. We have an 8 acre yard. We can control both dogs with one remote. You can select which dog to beep or shock. We have a Tri-Tronics Sport Basic G3 EXP. It will control up to 3 dogs. These aren't cheap but when you use these things 365 a year both the collars and remotes take a lot of weather and a lot of beating. These units seem to be pretty much indestructible. Good luck with your dogs.Sport Basic G3 EXP - Tri-Tronics Sport Series, Electronic Dog Collar Training, Sport 60 G2, Upland Special

 

[drssg]

I also use the Tri-tronics collar that whistlepic referenced. I'm sure there are cheaper collars, but I've been happy with this one and I recommend it.

It was very effective in dealing with one of our dogs that would get "locked in" to pursuit mode. This dog was intelligent and absolutely knew the command to come. But if he spotted a critter, there was no talking to him.

I followed the instructions that came with the collar to introduce it to him, and then I used it on a low setting to sharpen up his responses a little bit. I'd let him get distracted at digging for something and then give the verbal command to come. I'm looking for an immediate reflex response from him. I don't want to repeat myself or scream at him. He needs to learn that my voice is always significant.

Then I took him out for a walk around dusk, when there would probably be some wildlife activity. I was amazed at how much power it took to break him from the pursuit! I had to hold the button on the max setting for a couple of seconds before he stopped, and he never even yelped. It was as if his brain was just incapable of focusing on anything but the rabbit in front of him. It was no wonder he wasn't responding to my voice. I honestly don't think he could hear me in that state of mind.

Later in the same walk, a deer jumped out of the woods about 30 feet in front of us. He started to pursue and then stopped and turned to me. I gave him all sorts of praise and pets, and it was quite a breakthrough.

But as others have said, it's just a tool and it's only as effective as your training. I believe the manual suggested using it every single time the dog is off a leash, until you don't have to zap him for two weeks. Even then, I think the dogs are still smart enough to learn when they don't have the collar on. I've just gotten in the habit of putting this collar on before turning him loose. As a side effect, he gets extremely excited when he sees me get the zap collar out, because that means he gets to go for a run.

The collar in no way replaces being attentive to the dog. If I get distracted and he runs into the woods before I notice, then that's my bad. I should have been paying attention. I would never zap him if I can't see him.

You also need some common sense as to whether your dog's personally is a match for this training tool. I would never put this collar on our foxhound, even though he doesn't listen as well as the other dog. Our foxhound has a very submissive personality and is more naturally scared of things. I think this collar would create adverse side-effects in him. In our case, the foxhound is more of a follower, so he isn't really at the root of the problem.

Good luck!

 

[om21braz]

My Grandpa used to say "In order to train a dog, you need to be smarter than the dog".......(only kidding...:laughing

+1 Sounds like an adage I remember "Upon getting a dog, one of two things will occur - either you train the dog or the dog will train you."

 

[wdchyd]

+1 Sounds like an adage I remember "Upon getting a dog, one of two things will occur - either you train the dog or the dog will train you."

:laughing:.....God One OM.......I think I like your saying better ......:laughing:

 

[jpm]

i agree that some dogs respond to a e collar and some do not.i spent my youth running after a irish setter and i do not think any thing would stop him! the other dog we had at the time would run with him but would stop and listen to commands.later in life someone gave my dauther a dog that would not take any commands. then we got a pup that was a good listener but the other dog was showing him bad ways. i got a e collar and the problem was solved, if i had to shock him 10 times in his life it was a lot. 1 to stop him from running away,1 to keep him off the beds,1 to stop him from trying to mount people :ashamed: 1 to keep him out of the garbage. he was a quick learner with the collar.the other dog it just stoped him that one time but him didn't learn.he left on his own to be someone elses pita.the next dog was a mastiff ,with him you just had to discuss it with him. the collar was a waste because the jolt did not fazze him, a small pinch and he keep at it.after he got watt was expeded of him he was great.now with my new pup we'll have to see