Shotgun question

[RSKY]

Considering that I nearly killed my oldest sister's only child with a double barrel shotgun I have strong feelings on buying any gun used. You do not know how the weapon has been abused. The incident happened over thirty years ago but I still wake up in a cold sweat dreaming about it. Shot at a squirrel, missed, broke gun open and reloaded. When I snapped it shut it fired........ Knocked bark off a tree my nephew was leaning against. Reloaded several times with no problem and on the third or fourth try both barrels went off with my finger nowhere near the trigger. Problem was caused by my Dad putting salt on an invasive species of weed and then going hunting. It started raining and salt washed off his hands into the action. This was in the sixties before Round Up.

Be careful.

Know where your gun is aimed at all times.

Consider all firearms loaded at all times and that they can fire at any time. Do this and you will never have an accident.

RSKY

 

[Oldpath05]

External hammers???? Why? I can see no advantage for that. If you find one, if will be very old (or a replica) and probably unsafe to fire modern ammo.

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External Hammers has that old west look. Me and my older son like the looks of old style guns much better, we have several, 1860 Henry, 1858 Rem., Pale Rider style, and couple other western revolvers. My younger son is the opposite, he like's the new semi's/auto's, AK's, ratta-tat-tat, and in one min. 200 rounds went down range at something. Then you take my older son's 45-colt 1860 Henry repeater, that rifle is dead on at 200 ft.

 

[HCJtractor]

Sounds like a gun sight for stoners.... :laughing: gunbroker perhaps? Side by Side (SXS) Shotguns for Sale ? Buy a SxS Shotgun Online at GunBroker.com

Whoops. My bad. I guess responding to threads while sitting in a tree stand, without using my reading glasses, leads to mistakes! But hey, stoners need a place to shop too! Seriously, GunBroker is a great place to shop. A good quality double that would suit his needs would be easy to find there.

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[HCJtractor]

External Hammers has that old west look. Me and my older son like the looks of old style guns much better, we have several, 1860 Henry, 1858 Rem., Pale Rider style, and couple other western revolvers. My younger son is the opposite, he like's the new semi's/auto's, AK's, ratta-tat-tat, and in one min. 200 rounds went down range at something. Then you take my older son's 45-colt 1860 Henry repeater, that rifle is dead on at 200 ft.

Sure. I understand the look is important. It's a personal choice. But I've not seen many external hammer doubles that are set up for hunting or skeet. The ones I've seen have shorter barrels set up more for defense . But I guess you could find one.

Hammers would really be a pain rabbit hunting in the briar patches where I hunt. Not to mention having to cock it when a rabbit blazes by and you have a split second to shoot.

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[dragoneggs]

My experience with all Pawn shops are that they sell high retail for guns. Many times you can buy a new gun for less than they are asking for a beat up one.
I have seen some new coach guns at gun shows going for just slightly more than what you will pay for that pile of rust at the pawn shop. Stay away from 16 gauge guns unless you want to be paying $15 per box for shells.

I agree... I have never seen a 'deal' in a pawn shop. Guns, power tools, whatever.

 

[rtimgray]

My experience has varied greatly from pawn shop to pawn shop. Yes, I have been in several that have carried overpriced guns past their prime, but I've also been in several that had reasonable prices. I've bought 4 or 5 guns from this particular shop with no issue. The have a several milsurp guns right now for decent prices.

I've got no problem with used guns - I would say 80% of mine were used before I got them, and no issues so far. Absolutey nothing wrong with exercising care when dealing with firearms of unknown past, but there's too many old guns that aren't made any longer that there is no other way to get.

Thanks again for the comments. Good luck and take care.

 

[ch1ch2]

I got a real good deal in a pawn shop. A Mossberg 500 for $37. Someone had cut the barrel and the dealer had mistakenly thought it was too short and just wanted it out of the building. He wrote on the paper work he was selling me the gun without a barrel. He said he would give me a barrel that was cut off and if I put it on it might make it illegal. I put it on an measured it. It was 20" on one side and 20 1/4" on the long side of the angled cut. I took it to a gun smith and had him cut it to 18 1/2" and put a bead site on the end for $35.

 

[k0ua]

The way the BATFE measures them is they have an 18 inch dowel rod. Dump it in the barrel and if anything sticks out... busted.

The rod comes to rest against the breech face and that is where the measurement needs to be taken.

 

[dragoneggs]

The way the BATFE measures them is they have an 18 inch dowel rod. Dump it in the barrel and if anything sticks out... busted.

The rod comes to rest against the breech face and that is where the measurement needs to be taken.

Yep not understanding this can get you in serious trouble.

 

[rtimgray]

Since this conversation is circling the drain anyway, I'll switch the subject to the last few comments: when would the BATFE actually inspect a shotgun to find out if a barrel has been cut too short? Under what circumstances would this occur? Keep in mind, I have no interest in shortening the barrels beyond the legal limit, but if I, or anyone else did, just for grins - how would they know? Unless I openly brandish and display it to someone who would in turn notify the authorities, I don't know where it would come up?

Maybe if I were to take it to a pawn shop/gun store/gun show to trade in, then a person/dealer would? I could see that. If I were to take it a range to shoot, and someone saw it there? There are very few shooting ranges in my area, but I've heard that BATFE agents will occasionally visit shooting ranges to see what patrons are shooting and see if they are in compliance with the proper regulations (like the 922(r) stuff).

Again, no plans for that myself, just wondering under what circumstances an agent is apt to inspect someones firearm for legality.

Good luck and take care.