Sprayer Should I get this sprayer?

   / Should I get this sprayer? #11  
madpogue said:
Awesome info, everyone. Yeah, I'm liking the idea of putting it on a 3PH carryall. Even dealing with row-end turnarounds will be WAY easier. I'm printing that calibration document as we speak. And yeah, I like your idea of doing "dry" runs, FWJ.

Ford850, if I might ask, how did you fasten your TSC sprayer to the carryall? Does it come with bolts/nuts, or pins, or something?
That model is made to attach to an ATV rack, so there is some hardware included. There are threaded inserts molded in the bottom of the tanks too. I bolted a couple of 2x4 skids to the bottom, then bolt the skids to the trailer or carryall. It only takes a few minutes to swap them if needed. I think bungees would work if you used bigdad's idea with the studs (bolts) to keep it from sliding. I would probably use some cheap ratchet straps rather than bungees since I have some hilly areas.
 
   / Should I get this sprayer? #12  
Like all said, shy away from that small trailer. The sprayer components are ok. I looked over all of them, now I'm in the middle of making one. I have under 200.00 in it, it will be a 3 point and 150 gal. I had alot of the materials I needed.
 
   / Should I get this sprayer? #13  
I would think a couple nylon ratchet straps would hold it in place as well.There would not be as much give as the bungee straps.
 
   / Should I get this sprayer? #14  
Bill Barrett said:
...I'm in the middle of making one. I have under 200.00 in it, it will be a 3 point and 150 gal. I had alot of the materials I needed.

Bill,

I'd sure like to see what you're doing and how you're doing it!! Could you start a thread on the sprayer you're building? And include pictures!! :D

This has been a great thread and I've changed my mind on trailers and have converted to the 3pt method. Still haven't gone past the thinking stage, but it's on my list to have a sprayer before next spring.

Eddie
 
   / Should I get this sprayer? #15  
I bought a 12 volt, 15 gallon ATV spot sprayer from Northern for about $89. It had a good pump (60 psi, 2 gpm I think) and a spray wand. The unit with the boom cost about $100 more and had a smaller pump.
I made a bracket /platform that drops into the Backhoe mount on my BX-24 and mounted the tank on that with ratchet tie downs. Got boom spray nozzles from Tractor supply that spray 40" wide at 19" above the ground. The 2 nozzles give perfect coverage 80" wide. If you want a wider pattern just add another nozzle. The 19" height is critical. Higher and the sprays overlap giving a double dose in the middle. Lower and the 2 sprays don't meet leaving an unsprayed strip. Made the boom of 1" pvc pipe, 40" wide obviously. Attached the nozzles, put in a diverter valve so I could use either the wand or the boom, used plastic tubing to plumb. If you don't need the wand, you don't need a valve. Just use the switch.
System works great, cost about $110 total. PB Gordon makes lots of chemicals. Their website has excellent calibration instructions for the sprayer. Works out that my sprayer, BX-24 at 2,200 rpm, in low range, full speed on the HST, sprays 1 gal per 1,000 sq ft. Makes all my calculations easy and that spray rate and slow speed work well in my yard. I just mix a ratio that gives the right amount of chemical and go spray! Example: I want .3 lbs Nitrogen per 1,000 sq ft. My liquid fertilizer bought in bulk from Southern States, is 30-0-0 and weighs conveniently 10 lbs per gallon. One section of my yard is approximately 15,000 square ft. I pour in 1 1/2 gallons of the fertilizer, fill the tank to 15 gallons, and I'm ready to spray. You'll have to find that right RPM or speed setting for your rig by trial and error. I did my testing on the street until I found a repeatable speed that made sense. If you want 1/2 gallon per 1,000 sq ft, just go twice as fast. Just mix your chemicals appropriately.

I didn't want to use the 3 pt hitch because I usually don't have it on the tractor. The bracket I made uses the bh mount and just drops in place. The spray rig stays with the bracket so the whole thing installs in 10 seconds. Works with or without the 3pt in place. Biggest problem I have is seeing exactly where I've sprayed. The pattern is wider than the tractor so trying to use the tire prints isn't easy. Thought about a foam marker system from one of the threads here but will probably just use the blue dye from TSC. That should give me a better idea of how heavy my application is in the nooks and crannies I spray with the wand. When the neighbors see me painting my yard blue they'll be sure I'm crazy.
 
   / Should I get this sprayer? #16  
chadincolo said:
It's not an educated guess, it's a simple calibration procedure. You don't set the flow rate with the pump, you set it with the nozzles. They put out X gpm at y psi (exact numbers depend on exact nozzle. They are fixed, not adjustable) You aim for, say, 10 gpa, pick your nozzles and speed to achieve that. Then you calibrate to fine tune it. Not as big a deal when you are spraying 3 acres to overspray by 10%, so you can maybe leave this step out, but we used to spray 1000 acres. An extra 10% cost is bad there. And worse, 10% too little could lead to needing to spray again...

Here's a link with calibration procedure:
Boom Sprayer Calibration, AEX-520-92
We also farm and use 1000 gallon sprayers, fertilizer tanks etc. Yes, they can be calibrated very precisely. However, for 3 acres and using a small sprayer, precise calculations aren't usually necessary IMHO. Many small sprayers don't have pressure gauges, ground speed (esp with atv and many small tractors) is often a guess and the nozzles can vary in quality. Also, the true width of the coverage can be difficult to determine without a dye or foam marker. The nozzles on my sprayer are just plastic, angled jets and sort of crude. Although the nozzles are relatively crude compared to a tee-jet brand, they work well because of their relatively large opening and don't plug if some debris is sprayed through them. Getting a little debris in you spray tank with a tee-jet type nozzle can be a real hassle since these sprayers don't have filters to remove the debris.
 
   / Should I get this sprayer? #17  
Why couldn't a guy mount a small(er) spray setup in a FEL?
Even on a set of forks if the tank is big. Height adjustment could be done with raising or lowering the FEL.
I'm sure somebody on here has done it or at least tried it.

Mine is on the 3 pt. but it's a thought.
 
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#18  
Well, we don't have an FEL. Besides, I don't think I'd want to be driving _into_ the spray.

Radman, our 790 has a chart that tells speed based on what gear you're in, at rated RPM. The Fimco sprayers we saw at TS have pressure gauges. And indeed, we bought dye, because the area is very odd shaped, and we can't go in tidy rows.

Caveat - CHECK THE BOXES if you're buying a Fimco sprayer. See my post in that other sprayer thread.
 
   / Should I get this sprayer?
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#19  
Well, we don't have an FEL. Besides, I don't think I'd want to be driving _into_ the spray.

Radman, our 790 has a chart that tells speed based on what gear you're in, at rated RPM. The Fimco sprayers we saw at TS have pressure gauges. And indeed, we bought dye, because the area is very odd shaped, and we can't go in tidy rows.

Caveat - CHECK THE BOXES if you're buying a Fimco sprayer. See my post in that other sprayer thread.
 
 

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