Sigma (Sicma?) tiller?

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Elkins45

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There's a tiller relatively close to home that just popped up on Craigslist. I'm thinking it might be a pretty good option to do a little hobby farming with my 25HP Kubota.

http://louisville.craigslist.org/grd/2399868615.html

Any thoughts?

Oh, and if you see the ad and buy it out from under me you're welcome!
 
   / Sigma (Sicma?) tiller? #2  
There's a tiller relatively close to home that just popped up on Craigslist. I'm thinking it might be a pretty good option to do a little hobby farming with my 25HP Kubota.

Sigma 48" Tiller Box

Any thoughts?

Oh, and if you see the ad and buy it out from under me you're welcome!

You'd better hurry. That is a great price and what is a good machine.
 
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For a used 4' tiller he asking for lot of money. I would think you almost could get brand new for that amount. I'd shop around a little more. check out CCM; Sweet Tractors and Agri-Supply first before I would give that guy $900. bjr
 
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From the pictures, That looks like the Sicma ZLL series. That tiller is much lighter built than the RT-04 series the we sell. Ken Sweet
 
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Even if it is light duty it appears to have had little use and is a good brand. Looks fine for a 25hp tractor on a hobby farm with probably less than a half acre to till. $900 does seem a bit high but I doubt you'll find anything decent for less.
 
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If it is a ZLL series, it will only have 4 tines per rotor vs 6 and no slip clutch and lighter chain drive and most had offset built in. You can check it out when you see it in person. Ken Sweet
 
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Thanks for all the great input thus far. I believe it is a ZLL series (specifically a ZLL 140) based on a little web research, so thanks for that info Ken. Turns out that $900 isn't all that great a price reduction from new, if this tiller from Agri-Supply is the same model:

4' TILLOVATOR - Agri Supply

Of course, that would assume that I lived in the Carolinas and that they actually had any in stock.

The CL seller has it listed at $900 firm, but I may wait a week and see if he still has it and offer $750. It's not like it's going to be dry enough here to till before sometime next week anyway!
 
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Are shear bolt tillers OK if you're working ground with no rocks? I'm looking and would be used some to break virgin clay soil and some on previously worked garden.

I've heard you have to adjust the slip clutch models each year or they can seize up?
 
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Are shear bolt tillers OK if you're working ground with no rocks? I'm looking and would be used some to break virgin clay soil and some on previously worked garden.

I've heard you have to adjust the slip clutch models each year or they can seize up?

Virgin clay = slip clutch IMHO. Ken Sweet
 
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The seller says this one comes with a slip clutch, as does the one from Agri-Supply. I don't think I've seen a new one for sale anywhere that didn't come equipped with one.
 
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I've heard you have to adjust the slip clutch models each year or they can seize up?

You heard correctly. In fact, you should probably adjust the slip clutch (15 minute procedure) if you haven't used the tiller for 2-3 months especially if it sits in the rain. If you use it consistently that is not necessary.
 
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I had a Sicma 1066 rototiller. One of the dumbest things I ever did was sell that unit. They are very good rototillers.

I now have a Land Pride 2064. At 700 pounds it is a much tougher unit-it also costs about 3X.

I have a slip clutch on all my attachments except the flail mower. "Adjusting" the clutch is nothing. Just make sure the tension is about the same and it actually slips. It is a little more complicated then that but not much. In any event it sure beats carrying around a bag of shear bolts. That gets old real fast.
 
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The Land Pride dealer (Case Ag dealer who also sells Land Pride) actually recommend the shear bolt model. He doesn't have either in stock so he's not trying to push one he has on the lot.

He didn't seem to think our clay soil around here wouldn't "shear" any bolts as long as you didn't slam the unit into the ground at full speed. He has had issues with "lazy maintenance types"---i.e. = me, not taking the time to adjust the slip clutch each year, and with rain outside or humidity in buildings causing havoc with slip clutches--can be an expensive repair.

I think I'm going the shear pin route--plus it's around $150 to $200 less.

The reverse rotation models really interest me the most. Dealer actually called Land Pride yesterday and they have many forward rotation in stock, but the reverse rotation models are moving off the shelves fast. He had called them for me to check the difference between the RTR1050 and RTR1250 models. If you look at the specs they are practically identical. Only difference is 4 pounds of weight and the RTR1250 only has a 3 year gearbox warranty while the RTR0550 and RTR1050 both have 5 year gearbox warrantys. Land Pride rep said they found a new company for the gearbox's on the 1250 models (new models for 2011) that is costing them much less but still an excellent gearbox. He said the 1250's are selling fast because they have passed their cost savings along to the consumer so the 1250 is the lowest priced unit between the 0550, 1050, and 1250. The 1250 does come with slip clutch only. I'm leaning toward the RTR0550 with shear bolt.
 
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The Land Pride dealer (Case Ag dealer who also sells Land Pride) actually recommend the shear bolt model. He doesn't have either in stock so he's not trying to push one he has on the lot.

He didn't seem to think our clay soil around here wouldn't "shear" any bolts as long as you didn't slam the unit into the ground at full speed. He has had issues with "lazy maintenance types"---i.e. = me, not taking the time to adjust the slip clutch each year, and with rain outside or humidity in buildings causing havoc with slip clutches--can be an expensive repair.

I think I'm going the shear pin route--plus it's around $150 to $200 less.

The reverse rotation models really interest me the most. Dealer actually called Land Pride yesterday and they have many forward rotation in stock, but the reverse rotation models are moving off the shelves fast. He had called them for me to check the difference between the RTR1050 and RTR1250 models. If you look at the specs they are practically identical. Only difference is 4 pounds of weight and the RTR1250 only has a 3 year gearbox warranty while the RTR0550 and RTR1050 both have 5 year gearbox warrantys. Land Pride rep said they found a new company for the gearbox's on the 1250 models (new models for 2011) that is costing them much less but still an excellent gearbox. He said the 1250's are selling fast because they have passed their cost savings along to the consumer so the 1250 is the lowest priced unit between the 0550, 1050, and 1250. The 1250 does come with slip clutch only. I'm leaning toward the RTR0550 with shear bolt.


If you decide on shear bolt protection, better make good friends with the protective safety bell that covers the shear pin area. Ken Sweet
 
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As it turns out the original question is academic because the craigslist ad has been deleted. He's either sold it or decided to keep it.
 
 

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