Skid Steer Oil Contamination

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#11  
bigdeano said:
I had this happen to my tractor with a loader and backhoe, 11 cylinders total. Here's what I would do.

Park your machine with the front wheels elevated so the cylinders can retract all the way when the loader is lowered. Raise the loader all the way and curl the bucket all the way. Shut the machine off and drain the hydraulic reservoir. Lower the bucket by gravity and dump the bucket. Maybe you'll need a lever to help it. Almost all the oil will be out of the cylinders.

Vacuum pumps are routinely used to remove water from refrigeration systems without taking them apart. At a high enough vacuum water boils at room temperature and the vapor is sucked out of the system.

Take the return hose that goes to the tank loose at the valve bank and hook the vacuum pump to the valve bank. Take the suction hose loose at the tank and cap it off.

Tie the handles in one direction and let the pump run for maybe 12 hours, then tie the valves in the other direction for 12 hours. Then leave the valves centered for a few hours to suck the water out of the pump. The last would work if it's an open center system. If it's closed center you'll have to hook the vacuum pump to the line that comes from the hyd pump.

Harbor Freight has inexpensive refrigeration vacuum pumps, don't know if they're any good though. I haven't used the vacuum method, I didn't think of it then. It should work, hydraulic hoses should withstand vacuum without collapsing. Yours are probably double braid and very sturdy. Obviously don't try to put vacuum on the reservoir or it will collapse.

Hi bigdeano,

I don't think I can drop the loader unless the engine is running...I'll try that out to see if I can... The more bad oil I can get out the better.. I'm just in the process of gathering all the oils and filters now and trying to write up a procedure so I can run it by you guys before I start....

Thanks
Ronan
 
   / Skid Steer Oil Contamination #13  
Slimjim1 thanks for the post. The other reason I see a total tear down as a waste of time(atleast as 1st option) is a little word known as condensation. No matter how clean the parts are when put back together, once together they will collect some condensation. These machines are built to withstand and get rid of tiny amounts of water, that's why a good rinse would be my 1st line of attack. Much easier on the wallet and time line, and more then likely will cure the issue. Of course if a good rinse (or2) doesn't work then go with a more extreme approach. My reasoning is "why change all your tires just because the air pressure was 3lbs off?"
 
   / Skid Steer Oil Contamination #14  
go to a drugstore.. etc.. get 90/91% rubbing alcohol.. get a few pints of it.. drain some oil.. add in the alcohol and a gallon of diesel. run her around till warm exercising all cyls involved.

then drain.

alcohol is a polar solvent.. water is poalr.

the diesel is a good thinner for the mix.. will help cut sticky emulsion.

if it was mine.. i'd stick in a quart of atf for good measure for the added detergents.

this is SOP on any machine i drag home with a wet non combustion sump...
 
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#15  
Hello 20 20, do you know if that's the right alcohol for flushing
 
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Y-E-S
 
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Thanks sound guy...appreciate all your advise...planning to do this Monday so hopefully all will be well after that
 
   / Skid Steer Oil Contamination #18  
Sound guy makes a good point get the higher percent 90+% rubbing alcohol, it's all I ever use in the shop anymore.
 
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#19  
Hi All,

So I have obtained 99.7% isopropol alcohol after much searching in Ireland. I want to seal the cracked weld and when I went to buy JB Weld I could not source it locally. I have ordered some online but it may be a few days before I get it. Would either of these products do a similar job. I have both of them in my house.

14251 - DEVCON - DEVCON 5 MINUTE EPOXY 28G DEVTUBE | Farnell Ireland

Tec 7 - Tec 7, the perfect bonding and sealant product from Contech


Henkel LOCTITE 5926 Blue Silicone Gasket - 40ml Tube - Only £5.60 - Piplers of Poole

I noticed the temperature of the Tec 7 is only 95 degrees celcius.

I have also looked at araldite 2PAC but it is only rated to 65 deg.

How hot do the hydraulics typically get in a skid steer does anyone know?

If none of them products are good I'll just wait it out until next weekend to do the work.

Regards,
Ronan
 
   / Skid Steer Oil Contamination #20  
A hard working Skid steer could probably raise the hyd temp to 180 to 200 degrees.
 

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