Small snake- need ID

   / Small snake- need ID #21  
All snakes in PA are protected but you can take a limited number of most of them. I know you can only have one rattle snake per year and you have to have a special license that attaches to your fishing license. Its just as illegal to possess one as kill one so finding one dead on the road won't get you around the law -- they figure if you could say you found it then everyone would be "finding" them. Checked into all this as I wanted to shoot one for a hat band. We had a really yellow one in the garage that would have made a really special example but unless I was going to make it myself there was no way to have an ethical taxidermist work on it.
 
   / Small snake- need ID #22  
OP, glad your were able to free that little guy. I'm with Luke on his I.D.

Baby and juvenile black rat snakes have two "protective" mimicry defenses that they gradually lose with adulthood: (1) The brown/tan coloration loosely simulates some pit vipers, and (2) They can vibrate their tails in dry leaves when frightened, simulating a rattle. Can scare the bejesus out of you. Ironically for them, these defenses around people often result in them being mistaken as dangerous and killed.
 
   / Small snake- need ID #23  
If it doesn't rattle, it's a king cobra! I'm not a fan of snakes:eek:
 
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Black Mamba? I mean Mamba of Color!
 
   / Small snake- need ID #25  
Here in Michigan we often get an almost identical looking snake. If yours were here I would say it is an Eastern Milk Snake but we don't have Kingsnakes which I believe can look very similar. Do a little google search on "Milk snake" and you will see that they come in many color and marking variations, but around here the markings yours has is vary common. I think a lot of people discount the possibility of having a Milk snake because they see a picture that doesn't look anything like what you have and so assume that it is something else when in fact the color variation in the Milk snake is huge. As I remember, it's an adaptive strategy in which the species evolves to look like something more deadly than what it really is. Hence, some have developed to mimic coral snakes while others, like the Eastern Milk snake can mimic rattlers. Anyway, a little time Googling images for "Milk snake" may give you some ideas. Also, a Google for a distribution map of Milk Snakes does include Arkansas so it might be worth checking out.

As an aside, As my three kids were growing up, they often caught and kept a variety of snakes. One of their favorites was always the Milk Snake. A bit wild and aggressive when first caught, they seemed to tame quickly and were very easy to keep. They ate everything from mice and frogs to Garter snakes and never lost a one - every one being returned to the wild in good health and several sheds larger. They are beautiful and, whatever yours is, I was glad to see you get yours cleaned up and released. :thumbsup:
 
   / Small snake- need ID #26  
Nope, not dead unless vegetable oil kills him. He was crawling away briskly when I dropped him in the flower bed. Hopefully he stays away from glue traps in the future. I believe him to be a species of Rat Snake and not Hog nose due to the smooth shape of the head and no snout like the hog nosed.

Cooking/vegetable oil works great to free trapped critters on glue traps. Vegetable oil is harmless and will eventually rub off the snakes body.

I've had lizards get stuck on glue traps and the cooking oil removes them and they scurry away.

We have rat/king snakes out here and they not only keep the rats/mice in control but they also attack vipers and kill vipers. I would rather have king/rat snakes on my property than vipers.

When people kill off the snakes then the rat/mouse population gets out of control. Rats/mice breed disease, even diseases that can kill humans. Not to mention how much damage they do with chewing wiring and entering vehicles and homes.
 
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When I was 15 I watched a 7-9ft Indigo snake kill and eat a 5-6ft Western Diamondback. One of the coolest events of my life.
 
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I am all for not killing the harmless ones. Years ago I helped get this one off of a front porch. For some reason the lady did not want it there. We turned it over to the Humane Society and it was re-united with it's owner.

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I am all for not killing the harmless ones. Years ago I helped get this one off of a front porch. For some reason the lady did not want it there. We turned it over to the Humane Society and it was re-united with it's owner.

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Man that is one big RAT SNAKE. The coloration on my rat snake made me think it was a small Anaconda
 
   / Small snake- need ID #30  
See the bar across the eyes? It's a juvenile rat snake. Probably a 'Gray' or 'Great Plains' subspecies. I'm really quite sure of this.
I'm quite sure you are correct. That is a rat snake.....hard to say what type as colorations vary with age, location, and breeding.
Ironic that it was caught in a rat trap.....it's a very efficient predator and should be released as it will be much more effective than any trap. I have pictures of one over 4 feet killing an eating a squirrel. Looks much like that one only bigger.
 

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