So how do they do that??

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Everhard

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While cruising this great forum I came across a discussion about front hydraulic snowblowers - biggest issue for smaller tractors being the lack of gpm at the pump to even consider such an option.
Then along comes this company: Sheyenne Tooling & Manufacturing - Compact Tractor Snowblower
And they have a pump that runs off of the tractor pto (their preference is a mid pto running at 2000rpm but have an option for a rear pto where they step it up to 2000) and they supposedly T into the hydraulic system for fluid supply.
Leave out comments about it'll over-heat (they say it doesn't given typical temps when blowing snow) or any other comments.

My question is:

How can you T into the hydraulic system in the first place? (Obviously they are doing it successfully - I'm trying to understand how - I've plumbed my own grapple, plumbed my own set of 3 rear remotes so I've got a good idea of how a typical tractor hydraulics work and in my understanding as soon as you have one valve open everything downstream basically is not going to work yet they are blowing snow and running the loader at the same time? How they do that?

I'm thinking they are doing an actual T in the high pressure line going to the loader valve? And then dumping back into the tank at the other end. By doing a T in that line going to the loader valve would that keep the loader valve (and anything else downstream) still operational while the blower pump is running?

Or would they have to T into the line that is feeding the tractor hydraulic pump(s)?

E.
 
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Umm maybe into "tank" line, it is a return from other systems.... And should/could possibly be a fluid source for "another" pump...

Dale
 
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Since this a separate auxiliary pump that would have to connect the auxiliary Pump to the tractor reservoir in some manner. Not sure exactly how they would do that though.

Doubt they could tee into existing pump inlet without cavitating the pumps.
 
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As best as I can figure, in a nutshell...

Hydraulic fluid is taken from the point where your tractor pumps oil to your FEL with a T.

That oil initially fills the blower system.

Once that system is filled, it is recirculated over and over through the new PTO hydraulic pump, through the blower, and back. It's sort of a closed loop.

Any oil that is bypassed goes through a filter and back into the tractor through the transaxle drain plug, or any other plug you can find.

Since that oil has to leave the blower circuit, it requires make-up oil (charge oil) and gets that from the T.
 
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As best as I can figure, in a nutshell...

Hydraulic fluid is taken from the point where your tractor pumps oil to your FEL with a T.

That oil initially fills the blower system.

Once that system is filled, it is recirculated over and over through the new PTO hydraulic pump, through the blower, and back. It's sort of a closed loop.

Any oil that is bypassed goes through a filter and back into the tractor through the transaxle drain plug, or any other plug you can find.

Since that oil has to leave the blower circuit, it requires make-up oil (charge oil) and gets that from the T.

That couldn’t work very good unless there’s a built in oil cooler.
 
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That couldn’t work very good unless there’s a built in oil cooler.

Did you read the OP's request not to delve into the "no oil cooler" discussion? He just want's to know how it's plumbed.
 
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My rear hydraulic power pack unit runs at 15 gpm and 3500 psi...
this is way above what any tractor can supply. Skid steers all run at these values. I知 not sure why tractors haven稚 been made to run at the same values. My rear tank holds about 20 gal of hydraulic fluid...as I recall. The hoses hold a few gallons more. For summer use they recommend a cooler unit. Winter doesn稚 need one. At these pressures and capacities my blower works great. If it were run at the 2,000 to 2,500 psi that the tractor operates, that and given the fact that as you move the tractor the pressures and flows drop..
I don稚 see how this system would work

after rereading the site, I see that there is an added pump...missed that first time. But I値l tell you what, my rear tank gets real hot when blowing snow. Steam comes off of the hoses and tank. I would not want to run this hot fluid thru my transmission. No way.
 
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Thanks MossRoad, I didn't think to see if they had a manual out! lol I'll check that out. Always good to learn something new...

E.
 
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Interesting setup but has crazy expensive written all over it. What would something like that cost? 4 to 5k dollars?
 

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