so how has the new month altered incentives for the GC1700 series??

   / so how has the new month altered incentives for the GC1700 series??
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The 1500 series went all the way from 22-59 hp. Models 1523 up to 1560. Had 3 or 4 frame sizes I think.

Consodering that review I read was done in 2012 on the 1st units that came in 2011 . . I'm surprised such a significant model size grouping came and went in just a small number of years. Tier 4 could be one issue . . but unless the 1500 series didn't have acceptable volumes of sales . . It seems like a costly marketing situation for such a short run . . . especially when you consider the GC1700s and 1700s started in later 2013.
 
   / so how has the new month altered incentives for the GC1700 series?? #22  
This just came to me in an e-mail from the dealer I spoke with, "MF 1526 back by popular demand. Was set to be discontinued, but demand was strong. So we sent one to Alo Mfg so they could fit Loader and Backhoe for future production tractors. We have four more on order as we expect sales to be very good for this model. "


Sounds like Massey Ferguson paid attention to the people needing/wanting tractors. Very similar to how the GC series tractors have morphed into what they are now.
 
   / so how has the new month altered incentives for the GC1700 series?? #23  
Sounds like good news for Massey owners!

I definitely want to see the pics you took now! Did the dealer have any information in the form of brochures or spec sheets?
 
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Sounds like good news for Massey owners!

I definitely want to see the pics you took now! Did the dealer have any information in the form of brochures or spec sheets?

Not just yet. I'm keeping in touch with him about this tractor and the GC 1715. He's been working with me very well IMHO.
 
   / so how has the new month altered incentives for the GC1700 series??
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Just a little confused at this point:

1. I understood the 1500 series was not tier 4. My understanding that PRIOR produced product can still be sold . . But the "born-on dating" would require anything produced after 2013/2014 to accept tier 4 standards unless 25hp or less . . correct ???

2. It would seem there is significant overlap between the 1500 series and 1700 series. How could the 2 series both survive?

3. Warranties are different.

4. When the GC2300/2400/2600s moved to become the GC1700s there was compatibility of implements and components. It doesn't seem the 1500 and 1700 would have that.
 
   / so how has the new month altered incentives for the GC1700 series?? #26  
Just a little confused at this point:

1. I understood the 1500 series was not tier 4. My understanding that PRIOR produced product can still be sold . . But the "born-on dating" would require anything produced after 2013/2014 to accept tier 4 standards unless 25hp or less . . correct ???

2. It would seem there is significant overlap between the 1500 series and 1700 series. How could the 2 series both survive?

3. Warranties are different.

4. When the GC2300/2400/2600s moved to become the GC1700s there was compatibility of implements and components. It doesn't seem the 1500 and 1700 would have that.

1. True. Technically there are emission requirements for engines under 25hp, they are just a little easier to meet, so you won't see DPFs or other fancy emission contraptions.

2. Yes, and there was significant overlap between the 1500 and 1600 series. There is less, but some, overlap between the 1700e and 1700 series. If they are reviving the 1526, it doesn't mean they are reviving the entire line. I believe the 1523 and 1526 were on the smallest frame, it increased for the 1529, and again at some higher horse power. Thats also why a single brand may have two tractors with the same horsepower, think Kubota B2601 and B2650, same rated horse power, but different engines, different frames, and different capacities.

3. Perhaps, but I have no idea.

4. Agree, probably no compatibility, you need a different model loader for each frame size anyway, so perhaps they will only revive the smallest frame size from the 1500 series. Though even within a frame size, I suppose there could be premium and economy models, think curved boom vs straight, bucket leveling, anti-spill, etc.

Over all, there is a gap in the Massey in between the GC1700 series and smallest from the 1700e line. Kubota has the B series (B2301/2601/2650/3350) and JD has the 2 family (2025 and 2032). Revamping/reviving the small 1500 series might make sense to compete with those.
 

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