sound when clutch operated under load

   / sound when clutch operated under load
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#21  
Geez, the pto sound only occurs when the trans is in neutral and I get off the tractor. I've never heard any sound like we're describing while the tractor is moving or in gear. There is no sound when I disengage the clutch (unless the trans is loaded).

Unfortunately I can't get your video to play. It says it may corrupted or something else.
 
   / sound when clutch operated under load #22  
That's NOT the overruning clutch on the PTO. That sounds like a bad bearing (throw-out bearing?).
 
   / sound when clutch operated under load #23  
Get your dealer invlolved. If it doesn't sound right, it probably isn't.

You only hear the rathcheting of the overrunning clutch when the PTO Drive Shaft is spinning faster than the Main Shaft (overrunning).
 
   / sound when clutch operated under load #24  
My Ck20 Manual with about 400 hours does it too and has since new in '05. A momentary ratcheting sound when depressing the clutch but only under heavy load. Just always assumed it was the nature of the beast. I have also heard the PTO overrun sound when using a brush mower and it is much louder.
 
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#25  
That makes me feel more confidant. I wasn't really too worried but I thought I may be doing some long range damage. Have you had any serious problem with your tractor over the yrs?
 
   / sound when clutch operated under load #26  
I had the front differential go out but it was my own fault. As has been posted here before, when you change front axle oil you must take care to fill properly because it takes the oil slowly. I did the repair work myself and had no trouble getting the parts. It is a great little tractor.
 
   / sound when clutch operated under load #27  
So this thread is now months old, but here's the story. The dealer I bought my tractor from was unresponsive and ultimately has gone out of business. I recently contacted the next closest dealer and sent them my video clip. He felt it was unusual and forwarded to Kioti. They responded "absolutely NOT normal". The dealer just left my place with tractor in tow. He ran it and without a doubt "something is wrong". To refresh:
Tractor stationary, in neutral, foot off clutch = marbles. Depress clutch = silent.
Tractor moving in gear (forward, backward, 4wd, 2wd, high, low, diff lock, open) = marbles. Depress clutch = silent.
Load the tractor (push the bucket into a pile) until close to stall, depress clutch = LOUD marbles, then silent.
I also noticed that the racket seemed to change based on inclination, or side-hill angle. It also made a change in sound if I would turn sharp.
Here's the weird part. After the dealer ran it around for a bit (from my shop to his trailer), it was obvious that something is hosed. He drove it up onto his trailer and left it running while he chained it down. With the tractor idling in neutral he pinched a binder chain through the draw bar. Under tension the rattle sound changed pitch. He let up on the binder and it changed back. This is odd as the running engine was only turning the transmition input shaft, yet when he loaded the wheel bearings with the binder the noise changed a bunch. He did it a couple times, scratched his head and decided he should stop the engine before sucking it down.
I will report what the dealer finds and how that all works out.
John
 
   / sound when clutch operated under load
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#28  
I can't remember hearing that sound recently, I may tune it out now. I had my front shaft repaired but I don't think that would affect anything in the rear.

I'm curious to know what it is with your tractor, from description it sounds like something has come loose in the transmission or something else back there.

Good luck, still under warrenty?
 
   / sound when clutch operated under load #29  
Still no news on the tractor. The dealer has it apart and said that nothing looks suspicious. I guess he's now measuring for tolerances / clearances. Our first snow is here and I'm anxious to plow! I hope it's resolved before the holidays. I will post a follow up as soon as it's done.
 
   / sound when clutch operated under load #30  
Another week gone, 12" of snow plugging my road with 6"+ predicted for tomorrow. I hadn't heard from the dealer so I gave him a call this morning. No change. My tractor is in pieces, nothing looks wrong or worn, Kioti has no answers. Wednesday will be a month.
 

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