Sprayer question

[David_Kb7uns]

A 12v pump would be very expensive for the durability and duty cycle to pump a 100 gallon tank dry, let alone the power requirements to power the pump.
Had a 30 gal sprayer with the 2.6 gal minute pump 3 nozzles and 5 foot coverage went to 60 gal with 12 foot boom with nozzles with a Hypro PTO pump and have not looked back.

At the standard dillution rates and application rates per acre you will fall short of an ideal settup with the limitations of the electric pump and boomless nozzles. I also have not found a boomless sprayer that gives me the quality application that I desire.

There must be a good reason that many of the 60 gallon and larger sprayers made use a roller pump connected to the PTO or a small gas engine.

The small electric pumps do great for spot spraying or doing small to medium yards but that is where they stop.

David Kb7uns

 

[remington270]

My main reason for preferring 12v over pto driven is ease of use. Much easier to put the sprayer on the atv or truck and go spray, instead of hooking up to the pto. Can anyone comment on ease of hookup to a PTO compared to a bushog or tiller?

 

[ray66v]

My main reason for preferring 12v over pto driven is ease of use. Much easier to put the sprayer on the atv or truck and go spray, instead of hooking up to the pto.

Then why not a gasoline engine powered model?

 

[remington270]

Mainly because its just another engine to maintain. But it's not out of the running

 

[HCJtractor]

Yes.

I am sure there are people who do it, but I would not recommend a 12 volt sprayer for more than an acre.

I disagree. I have a 12v pump running a 275 gallon sprayer I built and it works great. Not all 12 v pumps are equal. Mine is a Delvan Fat Boy. Costs 3 or 4 hundred but is strong. You could get a good pump for $200 up. There are used by professional roof washers for commercial use. I ran over 600 gallons this fall easily and quickly. Don't discount a good 12 v pump just because most 12 v sprayers come with low end pumps.

 

[ray66v]

most 12 v sprayers come with low end pumps.

And that's the junk I was referring to.

I do not know of anyone who makes a sprayer with one of these high end pumps, so I have never seen one. They don't sell anything like that in any of the stores I frequent.

 

[Gary Fowler]

I disagree. I have a 12v pump running a 275 gallon sprayer I built and it works great. Not all 12 v pumps are equal. Mine is a Delvan Fat Boy. Costs 3 or 4 hundred but is strong. You could get a good pump for $200 up. There are used by professional roof washers for commercial use. I ran over 600 gallons this fall easily and quickly. Don't discount a good 12 v pump just because most 12 v sprayers come with low end pumps.

That is just it, the OP want a 100 gallon tank, on a trailer with the appropriate pump for under $1000. I dont think that will happen when $400 of it is in pump and then tank and heavy enough trailer to haul 800 pounds over rough terrain and not break in half. It just aint gonna happen.

 

[Don87]

That is just it, the OP want a 100 gallon tank, on a trailer with the appropriate pump for under $1000. I dont think that will happen when $400 of it is in pump and then tank and heavy enough trailer to haul 800 pounds over rough terrain and not break in half. It just aint gonna happen.

That's why I upped the ante and just started posting skid monted sprayers..............I couldn't find anything anywhere near his price range unless it could be set on his 3pt.

My thought was that a 7040 just might be able to handle that.

 

[HCJtractor]

That is just it, the OP want a 100 gallon tank, on a trailer with the appropriate pump for under $1000. I dont think that will happen when $400 of it is in pump and then tank and heavy enough trailer to haul 800 pounds over rough terrain and not break in half. It just aint gonna happen.

I agree except why use a trailer? I use my 275 gal in my truck (F350). I built it out of a $50 tote, common hoses and connectors, a 12v pump, and a high quality boom less nozzle, for under $600 . Now if he plans to take it where a truck won't go, I agree a 3 point hitch model with a roller pump is the way to go. I wouldn't want to pull a flimsy trailer ( like most 12v systems are built on) over rugged terrain, but my 4 WD truck does just fine. For spraying pastures, food plots, roads, etc, driving around in my truck is way faster and more comfortable than bouncing around on my tractor. But certainly for muddy fields or extremely rugged land, a tractor would be better, but many more $$$$ unless you luck into a used one.

 

[HCJtractor]

By the way, my pump is a Delavan Fat Boy, 7 gal/ min and costs $200 from powerwash.com. It is a demand pump and can be run dry w/o damage. It's the best 12 v I could find. My boomless jet is a TeeJet and will spray a 30 to 40' swath very evenly. Seems like it cost about $100. I have it rigged to fit into a receiver hitch with the ability to vary the height and angle. I usually block off the outer 2 orifices to reduce the spray pattern to about 22'. I control it with a keychain remote from Fimco or just have a buddy ride in the back working the switch. Eventually I may wire it to one of my in dash up fitter switches. I also plumbed it so I can use a wand also. The basic plumbing is just like the 25 gal cheapo ones , but just bigger and with a better pump and jet.

For more remote areas or tight spots, I use my ATV with a 25 gal Fimco and use the big truck tank to keep it refilled, using the same pump. It was really a very easy build.

 

[mjncad]

My main reason for preferring 12v over pto driven is ease of use. Much easier to put the sprayer on the atv or truck and go spray, instead of hooking up to the pto. Can anyone comment on ease of hookup to a PTO compared to a bushog or tiller?

Hooking up a PTO pump is no more difficult than connecting a Bush Hog's PTO shaft. Even though you say you aren't handy; to get what you want will require you to build your own sprayer most likely.

 

[kubotakid USA]

I guess some people have a reason to want a tank that will hold 100 + gallons. And only need a 12 volt pump.. I use a 15 gal per acre mix, I think its the most common. I usally never run it dry, meaning theres always some left in the tank when I refill. If u have a 100 gallon tank,
90 gallons of spray will cover 6 acres,.
I have, and love my 35 gallon sprayer,. i can spray 2 acres before I have to fill again, and get back at it. Takes about 10 min to reload.
Unless u dont have a supply of water handy,. I think, you should consider how nice it is to have just about the right amount left over,..Especially when u might want to switch to another chemical like 2-4-d.
I sprayed 120 gallons today and belive u me I waz real happy, I didnt have to tote around a tank of 100 + gallons in the rough terran I had to run on.
As far as 12 volt pumps go,... they are great,..Even the $100.00 pumps will do a professional job for years. I can spray about 100 inches wide,. And, Iam sure they are good for at least 144" I sprayed all of the 120 gallions today out of a hand wand.
2 each his own,. But lotsa people think they need to spray it all in one shot,.,And thats there choice. But if you dont come out just rite or close on your batch of round up ..where are you going to store 50 gallions ..so you can change to a 2-4-d mix? Unless u are workin in a desert, And didnt bring a supply of water with u, maybe u should rethink your tank size.
juss sayin

kubotaej USA

 

[remington270]

I hear what you are saying. My primary goal in wanting such a large size was (obviously) to decrease fill ups, since some of my fields are 2+ miles from the house, back on dirt roads. My mode of transport would be either a kawasaki mule vs the tractor, but I'm starting to realize that a 100 gallon tank would be far too big for the mule, so I am considering a trailer vs skid sprayer on the back of the mule. I CAN drive my truck back on the woods roads, but is not preferred.

 

[kubotakid USA]

I hear what you are saying. My primary goal in wanting such a large size was (obviously) to decrease fill ups, since some of my fields are 2+ miles from the house, back on dirt roads. My mode of transport would be either a kawasaki mule vs the tractor, but I'm starting to realize that a 100 gallon tank would be far too big for the mule, so I am considering a trailer vs skid sprayer on the back of the mule. I CAN drive my truck back on the woods roads, but is not preferred.

I suggest putting a water only tank in your truck and using that cut down on travel time so u can fill up in the field.Theres lotsa tank options for toting water. If you are going to just gravity fill, Be sure that u use LARGE 1-2" plumbing.

kubotakid USA

 

[ironpen]

Maybe I missed it.....what are you going to with the sprayer?? Ant hills, roundup on fence lines?? Surely you don't plan to spray a field, etc. with a wand. I have a 3 point pto sprayer with boom as well as wand that takes about a minute to hook up and I also have a 25 gallon wand only that runs off a 12 volt hook up that I use on the back of a golf cart for ant hills, etc. I have recently had an absolute rash of ant hills and I quit using to 12 volt sprayer because it takes too long if you have more than a few minutes or work. The pto sprayer puts out a LOT more chemical per unit of time, so I think you (and I admit me) are fooling yourself if you think it is more convenient to go through 100 gallons with a 12 volt sprayer. My opinion is you will use this outfit for a day or two and then ask yourself "what was I thinking?". Please don't take this note as me being critical of you, just as food for thought. Good luck no matter what you decide.

 

[remington270]

I don't take anything as critical. I posted on here for advice because I have a lot of tractor experience but zero with a sprayer. My main goals are twofold: to spray trails and to spray food plots/ garden no bigger than 2 acres (but I've got several). I think boomless can achieve this. My 100 gallon goal turns out to be a bit ambitious, but I think a 60 gallon sprayer will suit my needs. I haven't bought it yet, but plan on getting this sprayer for the bed of the mule:

http://www.ruralking.com/fimco-60-gallon-boomless-utility-sprayer-utl-60-12v-bl.html

It doesnt meet my original criteria, but It has a 3.8 gpm pump, with boomless and wand sprayer.

I think the trailer may not be needed if my mule can handle it.

I wanted to avoid a PTO due to the sprayer tying up the tractor, and the fact that I can scoot around quicker on the kawasaki mule. I figure 3.8 gpm is a fairly good application rate, heck that's a whole 4 gallon "backpack" sprayer that I now use in one minute!

 

[ironpen]

That looks like a nice rig. Please let us know how it works especially the flow rate. Ironpen

 

[scollins]

Northern Tool has them in their current catalog.....Portable Generators, Pressure Washers, Power Tools, Welders | Northern Tool + Equipment you can also click on their store locator button upper left corner of page and find a store close to you...

You might not find a 100 gallon sprayer with a 12V pump unless you make it yourself. The other option would be a 100 gallon 3 point hitch, if your tractor is big and you are on level ground?

Here is one with a 3.8 GPM electric pump, 60 gallon tank by Fimco for $879.95. 60 gallons goes a long ways. If you need more water, get a 1 ton truck or trailer with a water buffalo.

 

[remington270]

I just received the sprayer I decided on, see the above link, it's a 60 gallon utv skid sprayer. I'll try to post pics when I uncrate it, but it will likely be a few weeks.

 

[Mulemamma]

Is there anyway to make a sprayer from a 275 gal water tote?