Square Baler for Hay?

[5030]

Re: Square Bailer for Hay?

JackD:

This is a really great site, as long as you have the self control to stay out of political discussions pertaining to 99 percent of the tractors discussed here. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[jackd]

Re: Square Bailer for Hay?

Daryl:

Thanks...my "tender" senses picked that up early!!! /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Jack

 

[Woodbeef]

Well once again,I'll go against the common beliefs here. I use an old IH 430. It will outbale the JD,NH,and MF balers around here any day. I've had the neighbor's cut and bale here the extra fields on different years,and all my fields the first few years before I got my own equipment. So I've seen many different brands and models used here on my place. IH sold their hay division to New Idea around 1982. Remember now guys that there are only two basic types of knotters out there used on small square balers. I'm looking at those Hesston inline ones for my next one.

Besides my own use I sell horse hay locally,and some years my hay goes south for racehorses if I have extra. My fields have not been turned for over 50 years,just cut once or twice a year depending on the weather. They do get frost seeded when my bale count goes under 120 per acre. I soil test every 5 years,so far I'm always low on phosphorus is all.

 

[5030]

Woodbeef:

I hope Richard doesn't read your post......He will be smokin' like a cheap cigar. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

 

[icat]

Hay Woodbeef, 'ya wooden be tying to buffalo me now wood 'ya. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Seriously though, how much HP am I going to need to go with the 'ole IH 430. Keep in mind I'm short on HP here and that's what we "actually" started this discussion for in the first place. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

That said, I do love it when the posts vere off topic. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

[5030]

ICat:

Seems like about 90 percent of the time, they do. 10-4 good buddy!!!

 

[Taylortractornut]

Daryl, you might have answered a question Ive been meaning to ask. When you were talking ablut the friction and all in the bale chamber, Then mentioned the Claas has the rollers. A friend of mine had a hay baler that he traded for, then sold it for 100, the new owner lovers it. Its red and is all roolers. I think it was caused a Rolabale I think. The color throws me on the Class as most of them Ive seen were lime green and white.
Im kinda prejudice to hay/straw, Since i was little it was always my labor job to spread the stuff on slopes and other dirt moving projects that were too small to call a blower in on lol. I was about to buy that baler to get the rams hoses and sprockets off of for my shop projects. The rollers were a new one on me. Take care Taylor Lambert

 

[5030]

Taylor:

I am not sure on that one. The only "Rola" that I know of is a New Holland Rolabar hay rake.

Maybe Cowboydoc or Woodbeef can answer that one, I sure can't.

IH made a chain bailer some years ago. It was wicked on hay, but was great for corn stalks and wheat straw.

 

[Woodbeef]

hey icat,

I've pulled it before with my gas Fordson Dexta. I doubt if it was much over 30 pto hp. It did ok with it even going up and down hills,but I was also just drop baling.

If you look at any 430s look for one with the wide pickup or a 440.

 

[Woodbeef]

Hey 5030,

Your baler is known as a Rola-Belt baler.

Hey Taylortractornut,

Was the baler in question red and yellow by any chance? If so it was a Krone then. If just red it also might have been a Vicon/Greenland,or M&W..... Just can't place Rolabale at this time.

 

[5030]

Woodbeef:

You are a veritable dictionary/encyclopedia of old farm implements /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[Taylortractornut]

Woodbeef,Daryl Thank you for your help, I shouldabought the baler even though i didnt have a machine bigenough to pull it. Lots of nice parts to use. The fella that bought it sas he will retire next year and i could give him the 100 dollars for it.
Theres an older fella here that does custom haying and hes building a pole barn for his square baler and wants me to figure out how to make it stationary and how to reprocess the round bales. I told thi i could build a track for it to run on and unroll the bales, but he wants total stationary. He says its eair to handle the rounds because a tractor doesnt come to work hung over. I missed a good buy at an auction last week from a haying srvice that was moving, they sold 1800 small square coastal bermuda bales for 300 bucks and about 500 fesque bales for 50 bucks. Well i gotta run, thanks for the help take care Taylor Lambert

 

[5030]

Taylor:

We looked at some kind of setup for turning rounds into squares. It is a lot easier to round bale than square bale, no doubt.

Our main barn is about 300 feet long by about 100 feet wide, all concrete floor and heated.

We considered unrolling a round and feeding it into the square bailer right in the barn, but after a few beers it didn't seem feasible anymore. Besides, the exhaust from the tractor running the bailer would kill you with the doors closed!!!

I considered laying a sheet of 1/8" plastic on the floor, under the pickup tines of the square bailer, then feeding the round into the bailer that way. You would need a stand of some sort with a driven spindle to unroll the round and keep a steady flow of hay in the pickup tines. You would need a vari-speed drive on the unroller and would have to keep a close eye on the pickup.
Just some thoughts, probably wouldn't work anyhow.

 

[Taylortractornut]

The one advantage this fella has that I can see in his building is that he has 3 phase when it was a grain mill, and its got enough curent to run a 70 horse motor, i think I can stationary most things. He wanted to put a long pto shaft through wall and leave the tractor out side. Im with the electrics idea lol. Hes got a picture of a hydraulically fed hopper that kinda grinds up the big bales and feeds them to the square machine. Take care Taylor Lambert

 

[timb]

Daryl and all - if you haven't seen this one yet you might find this interesting reading...

Round Bales to Square Bales

Tim

 

[5030]

That's a great idea. It's got my "juices" flowing.

Me thinks that I need to go out to the shop and sit down and do a little brain storming. At the drawing board of course.