SS and retirement question

   / SS and retirement question #21  
Retirement at age 62 would reduce full retirement benefits by 30%. Thus, every $1 in SS at full retirement at 67 equates to $0.70 in SS if retiring at 62. SS at full retirement would then be $15K/.7 = $21,429 -- a difference of $6,429/year. Dividing $75,000 by $6,429/year gives 12 years (rounded). Thus the break even age would be 79 (rounded).

SS benefits are adjusted for inflation (by the annual COLA).

Steve

Yep. When I did the math, 80 was break even year. I am generally healthy. I live a somewhat dangerous life in the sense of what I do in my daily work at our farm. I.e., I'm at risk of tipping my tractor over or falling a tree on myself or some other seemingly miniscule event. I figure, at 80 I won't pay much attention to what monetary gain I would have experienced if I waited.....
 
   / SS and retirement question #22  
I think you have a pretty 'healthy' way of looking at it. It's what the wife and I are pondering too. take SS as soon as it is available. waiting gives you more $.. but you have to live a good bit to hit that break even mark. if you die befor ethat break even mark.. then that extra waiting didn't do you much good. given the averae age men die. i'm taking 62 :)

This issue of when to take benefits has some gray areas when deciding.

If you collect the reduced benefit from 62 to 67 (5 years) and your benefit is $15,000 per year you are at that point $75,000 ahead.

At 67 the full benefit is 30% higher. So now you make an extra $4500 per year and it will take over 17 years to be ahead of the game. If the decreased value of the money (inflation) and possible interest on the early money is factored in it would likely add at least another year. You will be at least 84 before you are ahead of the game.

I started collecting at 62 as I feel that if I make it to 84, my desire to do some of the things we now enjoy will likely be diminished. Most people I know in that age group are not big spenders.

What seemed right for us may not be the best for others. I'm now 65 and am satisfied with our choice. Until I make it to beyond 84 I won't know how it looks from that end.

My philosophy for finances in retirement....If we stay healthy we'll do just fine....and if the health goes the money doesn't really help. (I do have medical insurance)

Loren
 
   / SS and retirement question #23  
I also took mine at 62,seen to many that didn't collect a penny.
I think you have a pretty 'healthy' way of looking at it. It's what the wife and I are pondering too. take SS as soon as it is available. waiting gives you more $.. but you have to live a good bit to hit that break even mark. if you die befor ethat break even mark.. then that extra waiting didn't do you much good. given the averae age men die. i'm taking 62 :)
 
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   / SS and retirement question #25  
When one takes SS is a personal issue based on financial situation and health. If both are good, the 8% increase in benefits each year one defers SS is a darn good "return on investment". If neither or both are poor, take the money at 62 and enjoy it. For me, so far, so good......and both my wife and I fully vested in SS albeit at different income levels. My wife took SS at 62, as she had cut back from full time to part-time work and the penalty on extra income was modest in that setting (if you've decent earned income, taking SS early is nuts). As I reach full retirement age (66) next month, I've filed for benefits then deferred (see post by Depmandog - he's fully correct) payments cause (God willing) I'm going for 72 and the maximum amount. Anyhow, at 66 I can, and have, claimed the 50% benefit on my wife's SS check....so, a little coming my way from SS regardless and with no penalty. When I hit 72 (again, God willing), I'll file for the max. benefit. When I expire, which statistically I will prior to my wife, she will get my benefit level that at present would be about 150% more than she collects from SS now.
And, y'all are quite right, SS regs are complex. I sorted most out via a net search, but an e-mail exchange with a local SS rep (they prefer not having folks clog up their office so take questions via e-mail once they know you'll show up at their office otherwise) clarified a few points, and I encourage y'all to pursue similar.
 
   / SS and retirement question #26  
I find these threads on retirement options to be very educational... I'm nowhere close so it gives me planning ideas. :thumbsup:
 
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#27  
Cisco, you answered me question! Thanks! You said ye wife already took at 62 and now you're applying for her 50% of yours! So, she won't be penalized on the 50% because she took her own early! Great!! Me wife's working days just might be over very soon! Can't wait to tell her...

I love email contact for questions, so I'll have to see if me local people will give me their email address.

Jst, ye're smart to begin ye retirement planning if ye're still young! You'll do good.

Oh, y'all boys who take at 62, wha' ye do for health insurance? Ye wife still working and ye on hers?
 
   / SS and retirement question #28  
Cisco, you answered me question! Thanks! You said ye wife already took at 62 and now you're applying for her 50% of yours! So, she won't be penalized on the 50% because she took her own early! Great!! Me wife's working days just might be over very soon! Can't wait to tell her...

I love email contact for questions, so I'll have to see if me local people will give me their email address.

Jst, ye're smart to begin ye retirement planning if ye're still young! You'll do good.

Oh, y'all boys who take at 62, wha' ye do for health insurance? Ye wife still working and ye on hers?

Oh I'm not young by any means... I wish you guys had posted all of this about 35 years ago! ;) I still have another ten years or so though... provided my health holds out.
 

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