ssqa backhoe for tractor

[chuck172]

Just wondering here: They make skid steer quick attach backhoe attachments for skid steers, do they work on compact tractors?

 

[jeff9366]

No.

You could not mount enough counterbalance weight on the Three Point Hitch to allow a Backhoe front mounted on a tractor to dig.

Nor are the FEL arms or front axle strong enough to support the weight and strains of Backhoe operation.

 

[chuck172]

I see, thanks.

 

[Fallon]

No.

You could not mount enough counterbalance weight on the Three Point Hitch to allow a Backhoe front mounted on a tractor to dig.

Nor are the FEL arms or front axle strong enough to support the weight and strains of Backhoe operation.

I had the option to use one on my tractor for free. I declined & rented a mini excavator rather than tear up my loader & tractor.

 

[Sparkynutz]

Just wondered the same thing with the new ssqa bucket on kubotas the majority might be to big and heavy but it would he cool to see a mini front mount digger even if it only had a 6" bucket and really short reach. As long as it could be used to dig 12-18" deep trench or load a garden tractor trailer or wheelbarrow it sure would beat digging by hand.

 

[flingwing1969]

Another reason they put the backhoe on the front is there is no place to put it on the back of a skid steer.

 

[goeduck]

Just wondering here: They make skid steer quick attach backhoe attachments for skid steers, do they work on compact tractors?

The answer to your first question is YES. See attached.

The sane answer to your second question is NO. Technically you could but it would tear your FEL to pieces. Do not do it.

Skid Steer Backhoe For Sale | Skid Pro Attachments

Skid steer Backhoe Fronthoe Adjustable Bolt On Thumb Excavator Attachment Bobcat

 

[Sparkynutz]

The answer to your first question is YES. See attached.

The sane answer to your second question is NO. Technically you could but it would tear your FEL to pieces. Do not do it.

Skid Steer Backhoe For Sale | Skid Pro Attachments

Skid steer Backhoe Fronthoe Adjustable Bolt On Thumb Excavator Attachment Bobcat

Yes, exactly like that but smaller bucket. If it's small enough and actually sized for a bx and not a 6k lb skid loader would be nice. I also came across tree spade buckets. There was a post a while back with a spade that clamps to existing bucket but that looks like asking to wreck your bucket. A whole new long pointy bucket for digging small trenches would be awesome but an extra function super mini front (backhoe) would be even better.

 

[goeduck]

Yes, exactly like that but smaller bucket. If it's small enough and actually sized for a bx and not a 6k lb skid loader would be nice. I also came across tree spade buckets. There was a post a while back with a spade that clamps to existing bucket but that looks like asking to wreck your bucket. A whole new long pointy bucket for digging small trenches would be awesome but an extra function super mini front (backhoe) would be even better.

I would be very leery of the forces placed on the FEL. They do not appear to have swing which is good as far as damage to the FEL goes, but I wonder how functional it would be. You would have to move the tractor to get rid of the dirt to the side.

 

[npalen]

It would seem that a SMALL backhoe bucket close couple mounted on an FEL SSQA might be viable for shallow trenching jobs. There would be no cylinder, just the bucket facing and attached to the SSQA with maybe a foot or so in between.
The downside to any FEL loader attachment, however, is the lack of visibility. That is another reason I'm attracted to 3PH mounted implements

Edit: I see now that post #5 above is basically what I'm talking about here.

 

[Overtaxed]

It would seem that a SMALL backhoe bucket close couple mounted on an FEL SSQA might be viable for shallow trenching jobs. There would be no cylinder, just the bucket facing and attached to the SSQA with maybe a foot or so in between.
The downside to any FEL loader attachment, however, is the lack of visibility. That is another reason I'm attracted to 3PH mounted implements

Edit: I see now that post #5 above is basically what I'm talking about here.

I thought about something like this, but decided on a fork mounted shovel (which is not too bad for breaking ground, it's easier than doing it by hand, that's for sure, but it's hard to dig with more precision that "hole in this general area". For laying pipes/wires, I either use a subsoiler with a 1.5" pipe welded to the back of it (which works great for electric, so-so for pipe, you really need 2 people to put the pipe in because there's too much drag). Or, if I just want to dig a trench, I use a combo of plow/middle buster; plow as deep as I can get it through (which cleans out the hole pretty good) and then the middle buster to go deeper and loosen the soil. Then the trusty shovel to finish it off. If you don't need more than 6-10", it's hard to beat a plow for a long straight run. And if you need 10-12" for a wire, the subsoiler is great. If you need more than that, I'd probably hire it out or rent a mini-ex; they dug a trench on my property for power a few months back and it was amazing to see how fast that was; but it would have taken me a lot longer; they knew how to run that machine well!

 

[flingwing1969]

Just wondered the same thing with the new ssqa bucket on kubotas the majority might be to big and heavy but it would he cool to see a mini front mount digger even if it only had a 6" bucket and really short reach. As long as it could be used to dig 12-18" deep trench or load a garden tractor trailer or wheelbarrow it sure would beat digging by hand.

There are options out there for this sort of thing. A stump bucket could do this work for you. This might put a bit more stress on your bucket than you might like but it's out there.

 

[Fallon]

I have a bucket spade (Paulmco from Northern Tool) that fits on my pallet forks. Just used it yesterday to plant another live Chrismas tree. Took me 10 minutes to dig the hole in hard clay. They don't work well, but good enough & cheap enough. More importantly it beats a shovel.

Surprisingly I didn't notice my new L4060 digging the hole any faster than my old L3200 did a couple years ago.

 

[Overtaxed]

I have a bucket spade (Paulmco from Northern Tool) that fits on my pallet forks. Just used it yesterday to plant another live Chrismas tree. Took me 10 minutes to dig the hole in hard clay. They don't work well, but good enough & cheap enough. More importantly it beats a shovel.

Surprisingly I didn't notice my new L4060 digging the hole any faster than my old L3200 did a couple years ago.
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Exactly the spade I have, and exactly my experience. Better than a shovel, for sure. Nowhere near a backhoe. But also costs a few hundred instead of a 100 thousand for a mini-ex, so, there's that.

 

[goeduck]

I have a bucket spade (Paulmco from Northern Tool) that fits on my pallet forks. Just used it yesterday to plant another live Chrismas tree. Took me 10 minutes to dig the hole in hard clay. They don't work well, but good enough & cheap enough. More importantly it beats a shovel.

Surprisingly I didn't notice my new L4060 digging the hole any faster than my old L3200 did a couple years ago.
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This might be a time when you don’t want a back weight.

 

[Fallon]

This might be a time when you don’t want a back weight.

Interesting thought. And actuallkly I had nothing on my 3pt this weekend on the L4060 (double the weight of my L3200). Generally my weak spot is curling a spoonful of dirt out rather than pushing it into the ground. But pushing it into our hard clay isn't easy. Getting dirt out of the spade in a controlled manner is iffy too. It usually bounces the dirt out back into the hole. But at least it's loose & easy to clean out by hand at that point.

At $150 it's still well worth it vs $4-8k for a real hoe for the tractor for my level of use.